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| Quote ="cas all the way"yes it is. They cheated, as proven with the £10,000 fine. If they don't like it they shouldn't have done it. plus, whos saying the player who should of gone off didn't think 'not a chance, I'm staying on to keep us in the lead'
I love the fact that your all against the decision but you are quick enough to down grade the RFL. Sort your heads out people. they played with 14 men, they could of cost there opponents 2 points and that's that.
RFL should be giving fines out like this all the time and maybe they have finally realised the consequences 14 men can cause, this being the reason behind £10,000. Finally on the ball with it. Moving forward from past decisions i.e. Saints. Not backwards!!!!'"
Like I said, you need to find yourself a dictionary.
To cheat is to do something dishonest with the intention of gaining an advantage. It was an unintentional mistake and the RFL obviously took that view given the fact they didn't deduct any points. You also say prove that we didn't cheat. It's on a person making an accusation of cheating to prove it rather than the other side proving a negative.
I've never said I'm against the punishment. I agree with it. £10,000 is pretty harsh but I can understand it given when it happened and where on the field it happened. I wouldn't have agreed with a points deduction. I know Canterbury Bulldogs were deducted 2 points in the NRL when they briefly had 14 on the field, but in that game the player coming on was given specific instructions not to go on until his team mate had come off and he ignored it - different circumstances, different punishment. Saints lost their game and the 14 men were on earlier in the game - again, different circumstances, different punishment.
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| Quote ="cas all the way"A little odd that a water carrier or physio etc... always comes on to get the subbed player off the field but with 3 minutes left in a game with 4 points in it, defending 5 yards off your line. He doesn't go off. RFL had every right behind the punishment.
You all need to stop mocking their decisions and be happy with it. NRL governing body would of made a worse punishment.'"
The incident must have happened before Cas' set of 6 started, as teams aren't allowed to make interchanges and water carriers etc aren't allowed on while a team is defending except for physios attending injured players.
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| £10,000 is not harsh at all. The rules state 13 players at a time. They had 14 on the field and to make it worse it was 3 mins from time on their own line which is a coincidence. Well done RFL for giving a punishment out which proves to teams now that this is a major rule which cant be broke. Some RFL fans are hard to please. If they were given a £100 fine you would all be saying, that's stupid and should be more.
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| Quote ="cas all the way"£10,000 is not harsh at all. The rules state 13 players at a time. They had 14 on the field and to make it worse it was 3 mins from time on their own line which is a coincidence. Well done RFL for giving a punishment out which proves to teams now that this is a major rule which cant be broke. Some RFL fans are hard to please. If they were given a £100 fine you would all be saying, that's stupid and should be more.'"
The fine is no punishment at all against Salfraud. Koukash can afford this without blinking. The loss of the two points and awarding them to Cass would have been the only true and just penalty.
Another biased RFL decision - favouring Salfraud yet again.
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| Quote ="Poggies"The fine is no punishment at all against Salfraud. Koukash can afford this without blinking. The loss of the two points and awarding them to Cass would have been the only true and just penalty.
Another biased RFL decision - favouring Salfraud yet again.'"
Favouring Salford again?
Are you taking the ?
When have the RFL ever favoured Salford?
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| Quote ="northmanchesterdevil"Favouring Salford again?
Are you taking the mickey?
When have the RFL ever favoured Salford?'"
How long have you got?
Let's start with the last two rounds of licencing agreements. Salfraud never had the stadium facilities or financial stability as stated in their applications. They are RFL favourites, instead of denying this why don't you just lie back and enjoy....
Cass, who aren't RFL favourites, were cheated out of two points. You know this, as does the rest of the RFL world but, sadly for our once great sport, nothing can or will be done about it.
That's just for starters.
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| Quote ="Poggies"How long have you got?
Let's start with the last two rounds of licencing agreements. Salfraud never had the stadium facilities or financial stability as stated in their applications. They are RFL favourites, instead of denying this why don't you just lie back and enjoy....
Cass, who aren't RFL favourites, were cheated out of two points. You know this, as does the rest of the RFL world but, sadly for our once great sport, nothing can or will be done about it.
That's just for starters.'"
Ditto Cas and Wakefield you still haven't got the stadium and your both not that well off either. RFL favourites its a clique I tell thee a clique god damn you!!
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| Quote ="Poggies"How long have you got?
Let's start with the last two rounds of licencing agreements. Salfraud never had the stadium facilities or financial stability as stated in their applications. They are RFL favourites, instead of denying this why don't you just lie back and enjoy....
Cass, who aren't RFL favourites, were cheated out of two points. You know this, as does the rest of the RFL world but, sadly for our once great sport, nothing can or will be done about it.
That's just for starters.'"
Oh, I forgot your lack of a fan base despite the promises/fairy tales in your applications.
What's your average home gate this season? And how many of that number are your fans as distinct from visiting fans?
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| Quote ="Poggies"How long have you got?
Let's start with the last two rounds of licencing agreements. Salfraud never had the stadium facilities or financial stability as stated in their applications. They are RFL favourites, instead of denying this why don't you just lie back and enjoy....
Cass, who aren't RFL favourites, were cheated out of two points. You know this, as does the rest of the RFL world but, sadly for our once great sport, nothing can or will be done about it.
That's just for starters.'"
Good grief.
Not sure that you have noticed or not but WE HAVE A NEW STADIUM.
Where's yours?
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| Quote ="Poggies"Oh, I forgot your lack of a fan base despite the promises/fairy tales in your applications.
What's your average home gate this season? And how many of that number are your fans as distinct from visiting fans?'"
Your still having a pop over crowds of a team at the bottom of SL let's give it 2 years when Dr Koukash has marketed the club and hopefully a winning team and let's see what the crowds are then?
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| Quote ="Poggies"Oh, I forgot your lack of a fan base despite the promises/fairy tales in your applications.
What's your average home gate this season? And how many of that number are your fans as distinct from visiting fans?'"
Gosh you are very angry aren't you?
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| Quote ="Poggies"Oh, I forgot your lack of a fan base despite the promises/fairy tales in your applications.
What's your average home gate this season? And how many of that number are your fans as distinct from visiting fans?'"
Please, keep going. I can almost taste the bitterness from here.
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"Your still having a pop over crowds of a poop team at the bottom of SL let's give it 2 years when Dr Koukash has marketed the club and hopefully a winning team and let's see what the crowds are then?'"
"Hopefully" a winning team - don't make us laugh...
As for crowds, double them and you may, just may, reach 3000 which is considerably less than your fairytale licence applications promises. What was the number stated in them, and believed by your fairy godmothers at the RFL, 10.000 or so? Where are you all now then?
I repeat, a £10.000 fine is a cheap price to pay for 2 league points at Cass's expense; Salfraud is one of the RFL favoured clubs so instead of denying this why not just admit this and go along for the ride...
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| Quote ="Poggies""Hopefully" a winning team - don't make us laugh...
As for crowds, double them and you may, just may, reach 3000 which is considerably less than your fairytale licence applications promises. What was the number stated in them, and believed by your fairy godmothers at the RFL, 10.000 or so? Where are you all now then?
I repeat, a £10.000 fine is a cheap price to pay for 2 league points at Cass's expense; Salfraud is one of the RFL favoured clubs so instead of denying this why not just admit this and go along for the ride...'"
Why do you care so much about us?
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| Quote ="northmanchesterdevil"Gosh you are very angry aren't you?'"
Not at all angry - I just love our great sport and don't like favouritism.
Why not tell me what your attendances are - shut me up that way if you can Which of course you can't despite what was said in your Licence Applications.
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| Quote ="Poggies"Not at all angry - I just love our great sport and don't like favouritism.
Why not tell me what your attendances are - shut me up that way if you can
Which of course you can't despite what was said in your Licence Applications.'"
Our attendances are .
What the has that got to do with anything?
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"You bitter prlck! Ye a winning team our chairman will do everything in his power and he has a lot of power to create a winning team at Salford put it this way we'll over take teams like Cas Wakefield hull KR as early as next year take it from me.
And on the subject of crowds, you don't have the slightest clue what's happened down at Salford, for one we were a week away from folding 2. Season tickets weren't on sale until 2 weeks after the first game. 3 the team we were left with after raids by Wigan Leeds and Hull an the batteringsnin the first few games supporters have written this season off. If you want to go off crowds go off last years when we were at Least a little competitive. Koukash is planning to market the club not just in Salford but Manchester too which has beer been done before. Lets just see what happens over te next two years, and stop being bitter because how your club is heading you'll be in the championship anyway.'"
Are you so thick that you can't write without being abusive? You certainly haven't read or understood what I have said.
You admit to being 1 week away from folding yet in your last Licence Application all was well, you were solvent ( not!) You promised proper stadium facilities which weren't delivered in the time scale, you alleged a fan base which wasn't there.
I repeat, I'm not bitter just fed up with the way Red Hall is ruining our game by being blinkered and favouring certain clubs which includes Salfraud. Instead of trying to justify the way you are being favoured, I repeat also that you should just bask in the RFL's sunshine knowing that no matter how badly you finish in the league, how poor your support is, no matter how many RFL rules you break - nothing serious will be done against you.
£10K to buy 2 league points is really a disgrace. If you are a real RL supporter you will know this is true.
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| Quote ="northmanchesterdevil"Our attendances are poop.
What the love has that got to do with anything?'"
Your last Licence Application promised how many?
The point I am labouring is that Salfraud is one of Red Hall's favoured clubs - something some of your correspondants refuse to accept.
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| Quote ="Poggies"Your last Licence Application promised how many?
The point I am labouring is that Salfraud is one of Red Hall's favoured clubs - something some of your correspondants refuse to accept.'"
Salfraud isn't going to help your cause is it?
I have no idea how many we said we would get.
Do you?
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| Quote ="Poggies"Are you so thick that you can't write without being abusive? You certainly haven't read or understood what I have said.
You admit to being 1 week away from folding yet in your last Licence Application all was well, you were solvent ( not!) You promised proper stadium facilities which weren't delivered in the time scale, you alleged a fan base which wasn't there.
I repeat, I'm not bitter just fed up with the way Red Hall is ruining our game by being blinkered and favouring certain clubs which includes Salfraud. Instead of trying to justify the way you are being favoured, I repeat also that you should just bask in the RFL's sunshine knowing that no matter how badly you finish in the league, how poor your support is, no matter how many RFL rules you break - nothing serious will be done against you.
£10K to buy 2 league points is really a disgrace. If you are a real RL supporter you will know this is true.'"
Tell me pal when were the licences give out? Because I'm sure it was 2012? I'm sure we moved into our stadium in 2012! We expected crowds to rise with it being a new stadium, it's unfortunate what happened to Salford but were not on our own. why is it only us that have gotten away with it? Wakefield and cas STILL haven't got new stadia. Wakefield were near enough bankrupt and would of gone into the championship if it wernt for Crusaiders folding! Forgot that have we? Bradford were in huge Debt so were London broncquins same with Hull KR the fact of the matter is that near enough half the league got licences on marks given which were not met, so don't just single out Salford. And tbh why are you bothered about any other team apart from your team? Like i said your club will be playing second tear rugby soon as you haven't got a pot to plss in.
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE" I'm sure we moved into our stadium in 2012![size=150 We expected crowds to rise with it being a new stadium[/size, it's unfortunate what happened to Salford but were not on our own.'"
Just out of interest - why do you think this hasn't materialised ?
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Just out of interest - why do you think this hasn't materialised ?'"
The previous management seemed to have a "build it and they will come" attitude. They seemed to think that moving down the road to a shiny box would be the antidote to years of poor management and non-existent marketing. It wasn't.
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| Mmmmhhh - it's so good here in the warm bosom of the rugby league family!
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| If the BBC report of tonight's Salford-Bradford game is accurate the RFL will have an early opportunity to show how consistent they are.
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