He'll probably be replacing one of them. Is he a better centre than Chev Walker, for example? I think he might just be.

Because Bradford are a well established club entering their 4th season in a 'franchised' division next year!

Chev Walker is English.

That obviously doesn't matter. It's clear that Bradford have and continue to have a very poor quality of imports and go for the short-term option over the long-term option (Jefferies over Briggs).

Seymour, Heremeia... Ellis, Houghton?

See Houghton vs Berrigan last year for a prediction of Houghton vs Heremeia. They're to be used in tandem like Cunningham/Roby or Lunt/Robinson.

With regards to Seymour, we'll have to wait and see a) if we sign him and b) who else we resign.

He was very highly rated by the Knights fans. I think he will be a very good signing. And for all those slating he's an import, haven't you al got imports in your side?

It's not the fact he's an import, it's the fact he's another nobody coming from the NRL and taking a spot from English players. FWIW, I don't think he's a particularly bad signing and think he may turn out to be a good player. Signings like Jefferies and Royston are far worse IMO as they're both proven to be no more than average players yet Bradford have loaned out a promising youngster (Briggs) to make way for someone who isn't that good.

Well no one had heard of Willie Manu, but he's one of your best players. No one had heard of Shontayne Hape and he didn't turn out bad. He might be a flop or he might be a superb signing.

I agree with you moaning maybe about Jefferies keeping a quota spot, but Royston has been superb. It would be interesting to go through all the SL clubs and see homegorwn players that have featured this year and also non-british players in their squads. I bet most clubs have 7-8 non-british players in their squad because of the loop holes. I would say Bradford would have lower imports and more homegrown players than most.

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This is same Royston who was frontline player of round week before last?. If that's average then can we have a few more please.

Coming from team that gave Ben cross a 3 yr deal

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I'd heard he'd been told he could speak to other clubs. I think Morgan is a fan so we'll have to wait and see.

Sounds a bit like something the BNP say about building jobs!

Jeffries has been a revelation since returning to Odsal.

I can see that every single one of your overseas players are world class, I mean every club in SL is after Lauaki, Moa & Obst.

Most knights fans think he's a good player, and he's turned down offers from 2 NRL clubs to come here, so it's hardly like were signing someone whos coming because he cant get a contract in the NRL.

And as mat says, I'd like a few more average players who are capable of winning player of the round!

Bloody hell, just read the previous page.

His last name isn't Hitler ffs!

www.therhinos.co.uk/news/16847.php Luke Burgess and Ben Cross gone

www.therhinos.co.uk/news/16847.php Luke Burgess and Ben Cross gone

To be fair Moa has been a cracking signing and would get in most Superleague sides.

Tbh I do think he's a good player, but most peoples problem with Bradford signing Lulia is that he's a "nobody" from the NRL. As its mainly Hull fans, did you/they have a problem signing a player who only ever played 1 first grade game before coming over here??

Lulia has played more than that, so on that basis he's a better signing? Seen as this is now how we judge them.

Also when Hape signed for Bulls I think he'd played about 40 first grade games (4 less than Lulia) so I think it's a bit daft judging signings by how much they've played. All the Knights fans rate him pretty highly, so thats what i'm focussing on.

Not having a dig at you btw, just at most people who think its a poor signing cos hes not played that much.

All I will say to add to this debate is:

Rangi who?

Never heard of him before he signed for Cas.

He played for St George, just because you never heard of him doesn't mean anything.

Why don't you try and develop a young English back rather than a young Kiwi one?

Just a thought.

Why if the kiwi is a better player?

Club coaches will do what is best for their club, and rightly so.

It's not the responsibility of Terry Matterson/ Mick Potter etc to develop the national team.

And that is why England will never compete with Australia or New Zealand (or the Exiles). Ever.

Two Aussie coaches you mention there too.