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| that wouldnt really be 'remembering' would it. it would be discovering.
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| Quote ="vikingsmurf"that wouldnt really be 'remembering' would it. it would be discovering.'"
Not if one had already seen the comments on a different occassion whilst browsing the 'RLFans back catalogue'
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| Has anyone seen that Wakefeild have done an advert for ITV to be played this week?
Its a shame because all the clubs seem to be able to market themselves well, but this isnt backed up by the RFL/Sky
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Examples of.....
Money well spent.....NOT
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy57yG4IALQ[/url
Money well spent.....YES
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZx7dxz2CUU[/url
NO MONEY...BUT VERY CLEVER....I'll say!
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12K-qXPu-rM[/url
there is no formula for getting it right...but Quins viral was always going to be a flop........learn to walk before you waste money on the "supposedly" clever stuff.'"
isnt that the problem tho? the third link is merely a parody of the second link. what do any of the clubs in England, at any level, have to use as a foundation for their marketing?
when harlequins were restructured etc last year, one of the commitments they wanted from the RFL was assistance in marketing RL, rather than Quins themselves having to bear that burden.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Examples of.....
Money well spent.....NOT
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy57yG4IALQ[/url
Money well spent.....YES
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZx7dxz2CUU[/url
NO MONEY...BUT VERY CLEVER....I'll say!
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12K-qXPu-rM[/url
there is no formula for getting it right...but Quins viral was always going to be a flop........learn to walk before you waste money on the "supposedly" clever stuff.'"
That Quins ad makes me feel ill, its so bad!
The Warratahs ad is genius!
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| The problem with virals is that it is an even less exact science than getting an ad on TV. The overall cost of putting together and publicising a viral may be less than putting an ad on TV, but your Return on Investment might not make it cost effective. Its nearly impossible to predict the success of a viral and its difficult for them to be a success at all, so there's a strong chance that it could be a waste of money. Its also difficult to demonstrate the benefit of the ad, e.g how many people bought a ticket as a result of watching a viral. I would imagine this is the reason why the RFL doesn't go chucking money about on adverts. It has a solid bedrock of followers, which will turn up to marquee events as well as turn out regularly for theirs clubs, so does it need to spend money trying to appeal to new punters when it might not see an ROI?
The "They're Coming!" scheme has been brilliant so far and very encouraging that the RFL are taking on board new ideas of marketing. The costs have been minimal; slide for big screen, five hired actors, five robes, an emblem design and a photo shoot. They've used Sky Sports coverage and the SL website so far, which keeps costs down, but does mean they're only appealing to hardened fans. However, for a relatively little bit of money they've achieved high visibility and because they haven't launched it or said its the Exiles, its created a good amount of excitement and gotten folk talking.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"Not if one had already seen the comments on a different occassion whilst browsing the 'RLFans back catalogue'
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BHIPPZA everyone knows your really Bruce Wayne.
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| Quote ="Chorlton RL"
The "They're Coming!" scheme has been brilliant so far and very encouraging that the RFL are taking on board new ideas of marketing. The costs have been minimal; slide for big screen, five hired actors, five robes, an emblem design and a photo shoot. They've used Sky Sports coverage and the SL website so far, which keeps costs down, but does mean they're only appealing to hardened fans. However, for a relatively little bit of money they've achieved high visibility and because they haven't launched it or said its the Exiles, its created a good amount of excitement and gotten folk talking.'"
England are playing RL against five ' actors ' in hooded robes ?
I'll take the ' robes ' to win by 8
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| Quote ="Starbug"England are playing RL against five ' actors ' in hooded robes ?
I'll take the ' robes ' to win by 8'"
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| Something like this done with Super League players would be an excellent way of establishing the star players
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Ij18ViQvw[/url
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funny.....but this is good too.....
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha0leeodzBA&feature=related[/url
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[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha0leeodzBA&feature=related[/url
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| Quote ="gutterfax"funny.....but this is good too.....
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha0leeodzBA&feature=related[/url'"
Just got in work I see
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| Quote ="Starbug"Just got in work I see
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Nope...been here a while...cleaning house on the NRL boards. I am amazed dally messenger still bothers.....he costs a fortune to feed and I am seriously thinking of releasing him back into the wild
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I forgot to put these ' ' around ' work '
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| Quote ="starbug"I forgot to put these ' ' around ' work ''" cheeky monkey
Quote ="J O N N Y"isnt that the problem tho? '"
What problem?
When done properly, Viral is genius. [urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE[/url
Took Old Spice to the No1 brand in the USA and made a star of the actor.......
Quote ="J O N N Y"the third link is merely a parody of the second link. '" ....
well spotted It still has 434,000+ views....compared to the 50k for Bon Jovi/NRL.....
Quote ="J O N N Y"what do any of the clubs in England, at any level, have to use as a foundation for their marketing?'"
The trick is to think "outside" the sport......even a parody of Northerners would get attention even though it's a cliche.....something that starts with the Hovis ad music, 2 old guys chatting over their ale talking about the "good old days".....flick to sepia film footage of mines, black pudding etc......and then flips to OT, Packed to the rafters with big hits and fast rugby...........then back to the 2 guys in the pub looking stunned. Get the guys friom the fast show to do it.....post it on youtube and see what happens.
This pile of tripe has gone past 100k in a day FFS.... [urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ICVXftJu0M[/url
Quote ="J O N N Y"when harlequins were restructured etc last year, one of the commitments they wanted from the RFL was assistance in marketing RL, rather than Quins themselves having to bear that burden.'"
....haven't seen or heard much in the way of support as yet.....Couple of ads in METRO which IMO was lazy is all so far.......
The thing with viral, like this rebecca black scenario....you never can be sure it will work, but as I said at the top of this post...if you get it right, it can be brilliant!
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| Marketing nouse is a huge problem, people just dont have it in RL, either that or they cant be bothered.
In 2009 i did work experience for uni at Bradford and i made a few videos for them with a few other students, took a couple of weeks of slow work, on my macbook. We made a good video, but was extremely simple and if i was given time and a budget or even a beyond basic programme then i could come up with some of the stuff from above.
as someone has mentioned already its spreading it thats the problem, RL is a tight community and as such, often struggles to extend beyond when it comes to advertising etc.
As mentioned, i would love to work in a marketing dpt, at either the RFL or any SL club, because the job just isnt being done right. all of the videos above are simple, bit of film, bit of text, good programme to put it all together with.
Now this is poor, but it was my first attempt EVER at making a video, and as mentioned it's on a basic programme with not many functions, and the only video i had was what was already on the net.
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41LXV__HmQE[/url
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"Marketing nouse is a huge problem, people just dont have it in RL, either that or they cant be bothered.
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| Quote ="Leaf"Or the pay isn't high enough.'"
im sure the people getting paid to market the game at the RFL are on decent enough wages to produce a good quality video/ marketing campaign.
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"im sure the people getting paid to market the game at the RFL are on decent enough wages to produce a good quality video/ marketing campaign.'"
Firstly, you say you'd love to work in RL...Quins RL are looking for a sales and marketing executive....fee free to check out this job.
[urlhttp://www.league.quins.co.uk/news/13299.php[/url
Next up......getting paid well? I somehow doubt it. I was in discussions with the RFL regarding work in London a few years ago. If I had accepted it, I would have reduced my income by over 2/3rds....as much as a fan as I am of the game and Quins RL.....not a chance.
This is the one thing that gets my goat about Quins RL......if they are going to lose 1.5 million a year, then for gods sake at least spend 10% of those losses on a marketing professional. The job above will pay nothing like 33% of the salary it should....if I had to guess, I reckon 40k tops and for that money.....with the list of tasks in the description, you'd maybe get a professional for 1 day a week
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Firstly, you say you'd love to work in RL...Quins RL are looking for a sales and marketing executive....fee free to check out this job.
[urlhttp://www.league.quins.co.uk/news/13299.php[/url
Next up......getting paid well? I somehow doubt it. I was in discussions with the RFL regarding work in London a few years ago. If I had accepted it, I would have reduced my income by over 2/3rds....as much as a fan as I am of the game and Quins RL.....not a chance.
This is the one thing that gets my goat about Quins RL......if they are going to lose 1.5 million a year, then for gods sake at least spend 10% of those losses on a marketing professional. The job above will pay nothing like 33% of the salary it should....if I had to guess, I reckon 40k tops and for that money.....with the list of tasks in the description, you'd maybe get a professional for 1 day a week
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i saw that vacancy, but im not available for the work for another 3 months at least and they told me that it was looking for a more or less direct start.
i understand what youre saying, and to be honest i agree, so i would like to take back my previous statement.
i don't really understand the working world as of yet, so im a little naive, as im just finishing up uni.
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"i don't really understand the working world as of yet, so im a little naive, as im just finishing up uni.'"
Hey.....I'd email them again if I were you and see what the deal is in June. Looking at the number of tasks the successful candidate will be required to do, they may well be looking for either an assistant (20k at a stab) or a replacement by then.
Deadly serious.......Quins RL is the toughest job in sports marketing apart from maybe the head of beach womens Beach volleyball in Iran
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Firstly, you say you'd love to work in RL...Quins RL are looking for a sales and marketing executive....fee free to check out this job.
[urlhttp://www.league.quins.co.uk/news/13299.php[/url
Next up......getting paid well? I somehow doubt it. I was in discussions with the RFL regarding work in London a few years ago. If I had accepted it, I would have reduced my income by over 2/3rds....as much as a fan as I am of the game and Quins RL.....not a chance.
This is the one thing that gets my goat about Quins RL......if they are going to lose 1.5 million a year, then for gods sake at least spend 10% of those losses on a marketing professional. The job above will pay nothing like 33% of the salary it should....if I had to guess, I reckon 40k tops and for that money.....with the list of tasks in the description, you'd maybe get a professional for 1 day a week
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Cheers for the tip off Gutterfax! I've been waiting for something like this to come up at Quins for a while
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Hey.....I'd email them again if I were you and see what the deal is in June. Looking at the number of tasks the successful candidate will be required to do, they may well be looking for either an assistant (20k at a stab) or a replacement by then.
Deadly serious.......Quins RL is the toughest job in sports marketing apart from maybe the head of beach womens Beach volleyball in Iran'"
i might do that gutters, would prefer something up north, but i guess beggars cant be choosers.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Quins RL are looking for a sales and marketing executive....fee free to check out this job.
[urlhttp://www.league.quins.co.uk/news/13299.php[/url'"
I'm on it Gutterfax.
Thanks for the tip.
If anyone else is considering applying don't bother.
I'm nailed on to get it.
I'll get 14,000 turning up for every fixture in no time with thousands more locked out.
In fact with young Phippsy at the helm Harlequins will have to relocate to 'HQ'.
Expect 82,000 crowds to be the norm from next season.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"I'm on it Gutterfax.'"
we have know that for a while
BTW.......I may be wrong, but this role is advertised on another sports recruitment site with a salary range of 18-20k....I seriously hope that's per month
FFS.........When will the penny drop with the club .....20k is peanuts and will only attract monkeys.....
...which dove-tails nicely back to PHIPPS
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