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| but sadly the part in parenthesis is clearly beyond you!
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| Quote ="Richie"I can see how you got to that point. No one else seemed to. You have to have an odd way way to reading to translate it to that.'"
I just asked questions , unfortunatley it seems they couldn't be answered , apart from the all clubs getting a guaranteed 3 rd of the available funding , but we dont know how much the funding is yet ?, so we dont know how much a 3 rd of the funding is yet ? , or exactly what clubs will have to achieve to get the other 2 3rds
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"of course it does, Sky doesnt pay each club individually.'"
So it is Central funding ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"I just asked questions , unfortunatley it seems they couldn't be answered , apart from the all clubs getting a guaranteed 3 rd of the available funding , but we dont know how much the funding is yet ?, so we dont know how much a 3 rd of the funding is yet ? , or exactly what clubs will have to achieve to get the other 2 3rds'"
...and that lack of answers led you to believe community departments would be funded centrally by the RFL?
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| Quote ="Starbug"I just asked questions , unfortunatley it seems they couldn't be answered , apart from the all clubs getting a guaranteed 3 rd of the available funding , but we dont know how much the funding is yet ?, so we dont know how much a 3 rd of the funding is yet ? , or exactly what clubs will have to achieve to get the other 2 3rds'"
but that level of detail wouldnt be expected in a press release!...and seeing this is a consultation process (and go to the amateur pages to see what I think of certain RFL consultation processes at the minute) the information is hardly likely to be fixed anyway.
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| Quote ="Starbug"So it is Central funding ?'"
well as it is part of a CBA, it would be strange if it wasnt paid collectively, and as such would need to come form one source.
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| Quote ="Richie"...and that lack of answers led you to believe community departments would be funded centrally by the RFL?
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No , the lack of answers suggested to me that they ' might ' be , as running a successful community dept costs a lot of money to set up initially , money that some clubs might not have access to , if those clubs were to be given access to this money , would clubs that have already spent their own money setting up a CD , be able to access a similar sum of money for other things
Seems fairly straightforward to me
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"well as it is part of a CBA, it would be strange if it wasnt paid collectively, and as such would need to come form one source.'"
Playing the abbreiviation game now are we ? , go on , enlighten the thick leyther ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"So it is Central funding ?'"
the circle of this conspiracy begins again...
did you know it was the RFL who denied the people of Leigh of having a railway station? it will be a future requirement of Championship franchising you see, and the devious RFL orchestrated low demand throughout the 1950s and 1960s leading to abandonment of the line (and station) in 1969. it was a level of strategic foresight that some of us have only associated with RFL over recent years but as part of the ultimate 'grand plan' they've been trying to keep Leigh out of the top division since 1895.
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| Quote ="mmp"the circle of this conspiracy begins again...
did you know it was the RFL who denied the people of Leigh of having a railway station? it will be a future requirement of Championship franchising you see, and the devious RFL orchestrated low demand throughout the 1950s and 1960s leading to abandonment of the line (and station) in 1969. it was a level of strategic foresight that some of us have only associated with RFL over recent years but as part of the ultimate 'grand plan' they've been trying to keep Leigh out of the top division since 1895.'"
Wouldn't surprise me , never trust a ' bookie '
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| Seems like providing sufficient funding to get all championship clubs set up with a decent community dept is a good thing, no?
The only way we will get viable additional clubs into a league that (even before any planned expansion) will potentially include trips to Workington, Whitehaven, London & Gateshead is to make funding for travel available. So that seems a good plan. I speculate that if Toulouse were to revert to the LER next year, that could free up quite a bit of travel money for some amateur clubs to step up in 2012.
Main downside is that for teams on the fringe of the two comps - maybe Whitehaven or Dewsbury, for example, there's a big difference between playing mostly northern teams in front of 1000-3000 fans and playing in a league where 500 is a good crowd, with a lot more travelling. And maybe Oldham dominating championship 1 for years without being allowed up due to unsuitable ground.
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| Quote ="mmp"the circle of this conspiracy begins again...
did you know it was the RFL who denied the people of Leigh of having a railway station? it will be a future requirement of Championship franchising you see, and the devious RFL orchestrated low demand throughout the 1950s and 1960s leading to abandonment of the line (and station) in 1969. it was a level of strategic foresight that some of us have only associated with RFL over recent years but as part of the ultimate 'grand plan' they've been trying to keep Leigh out of the top division since 1895.'"
I can't grasp if you're trying to be funny, sarcastic, intimidate or be serious, so i'm not sure how to react.
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| Quote ="JonM"=#FF0000Seems like providing sufficient funding to get all championship clubs set up with a decent community dept is a good thing, no?
The only way we will get viable additional clubs into a league that (even before any planned expansion) will potentially include trips to Workington, Whitehaven, London & Gateshead is to make funding for travel available. So that seems a good plan. I speculate that if Toulouse were to revert to the LER next year, that could free up quite a bit of travel money for some amateur clubs to step up in 2012.
Main downside is that for teams on the fringe of the two comps - maybe Whitehaven or Dewsbury, for example, there's a big difference between playing mostly northern teams in front of 1000-3000 fans and playing in a league where 500 is a good crowd, with a lot more travelling. And maybe Oldham dominating championship 1 for years without being allowed up due to unsuitable ground.'"
A good community dept is great , but what are you really trying to achieve with it ?
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| I think some of us are forgetting that this is just a 'Consultation Document' so it's highly unlikely any specific details will be given at this stage - let's just wait and see what spans out instead of making meaningless assumptions etc
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"I can't grasp if you're trying to be funny, =#FF0000sarcastic, intimidate or be serious, so i'm not sure how to react.'"
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| If he was a Leyther he'd be blaming Wigan somehow or another, even if it was nowt to do with them, it was their fault the head gasket went in my car.
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| Quote ="sanjunien"I think some of us are forgetting that this is just a 'Consultation Document' so it's highly unlikely any specific details will be given at this stage - let's just wait and see what spans out instead of making meaningless assumptions etc
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They already know exactly what they are going to do , and most likely how much money they have available to do it with
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| Quote ="Starbug"Lowest form of ' wit '
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yes but please complete the saying :
'but the highest form of intelligence'
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| Quote ="sanjunien"yes but please complete the saying :
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That is debatable
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"I can't grasp if you're trying to be funny, =#FF0000sarcastic, intimidate or be serious, so i'm not sure how to react.'"
sarcastic. although mildy amused that it could be seen as intimidation - the depths of this conspiracy know no bounds
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| Quote ="Starbug"It is a meaningless statement , it could mean several different things , it doesn't explain anything , that's why you like me and everybody else doesn't know what it means , its like something out of the ' office ' TV show'"
The logic of it is we will reward innovation and are being flexible about it.
So you run a couple of kids teams, you provide training in schools, you encourage new people into the sport, you strengthen ties with SL clubs, you develop links with amateur teams, you riase money, you become self financing, you increase your crowd. All the things that SL clubs have to do for a Franchise you encourage in NL1 and dont be too prescriptive about it.
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| Quote ="Starbug"That is debatable'"
just like quoting 'Lowest form of ' wit ' ?
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| Quote ="mmp"sarcastic. although mildy amused that it could be seen as intimidation - the depths of this conspiracy know no bounds
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Sarcasm can be seen by some as bullying , so it can be intimidation in some instances
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| Quote ="mmp"sarcastic. although mildy amused that it could be seen as intimidation - the depths of this conspiracy know no bounds
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Not really. People try to intimidate other fans with sarcy comments on these boards all the time, it was just pretty unclear so it didn't really have the desired effect.
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