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| DM and gutterfax show continues....
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| Quote ="eels fan"I don't think Packer has any Fox shares now, I think it's the ch7 bloke.'"
Packer owns 52% of Consolidated Media, which in turn, holds 25% of Foxtel and 50% of Fox Sports. The Ten networks’ first digital channel ONE competes directly with Fox Sports. ONE’s own figures suggest more viewers are tuning into ONE than all Pay TV sports channels combined.
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| Ahh cool, so it hasn't changed.
Cheers JB.
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| yeh he owns 15% of Ch10 and, personally, 25% of Fox sports
Interestingly first thing he muted was closing down OneHD or stoping it being a sports channel, no conflict of interest there!
EARLIER: James Packer's set to wield the axe at Channel 10 after increasing his stake in the network to nearly 18 per cent overnight.
Quote Packer reportedly is eyeing off the networks One HD sports channel, and plans for the new two-and-a-half hour evening news block of programming.
There are reports Packer wants to show his SKY News Pay TV channel on One HD broadening its market.'"
Stokes owns 12.5% of Foxsports through his 24% ownership of Consolidated media and 43% of Ch7
It is rumoured Murdoch and Packer are about to try and take over consolidated media and push Stokes out.
Ch9 is owned by CVC Asia-Pacific, not sure if there is an individual behind them?
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| Quote ="eels fan"forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=128936&highlight=richest+sport'"
Well I have some egg on my face, I really didn't know that.
On the brightside, that's great news. I was of the impression AFL fans were all middle class s. Guess the League blokes I speak to exagerate some
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| Wouldn't worry too much, we're Aussies so we're all s hehe.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"seriously you are one of the dumbest people ive ever met'"
small point...but we have never met.
Quote ="dally messenger"i dont mind trolling '" ...we've noticed
Quote ="dally messenger"i feel guilty replying to your posts'"
I will repeat this for you again.
Regardless of what you believe to be true, Rupert Murdoch is the 3rd most important person on the planet with regard to Media. Simply put, he has enough money and clout to do pretty much as he wants. No amount of "regulations" will stop him if he wishes to buy 100% of the rights to the NRL........he will find a way of getting the required amount of games on FTA TV if he does this. I have no idea why you continue to try and deny that Murdoch will get it if he wants it......he has a plan that involves cornering the sports market on a global scale....NRL in Australia is a big piece of this plan.....No amount of combinations of Australian TV companies can compete if Murdoch decides he wants the NRL.......even if he has to pay the $1,000,000,000 you keep on banging on about. BTW...I have never denied that the NRL wouldn't get $1,000,000,000.......I just think that they will get slightly less.
Listen DiM.....I know you love the NRL......I know you read loads of stories and keep right up to date with all the news from all the clubs.....but Media is what I do.....and Rupert Murdoch....like it or not, is the biggest player involved in Australian TV....regardless of who thinks they know exactly what he owns and what he doesn't
Quote ="eels fan" we're Aussies so we're all s hehe.'"
....but the rest of the world applauds your ability to type with one hand
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| Quote ="eels fan"Murdoch has a plan, why else does the code get ripped off all over the place?
In England, the SL belts the RU games on Sky, yet the RU clubs get more money and 1000 times the exposure and more top level games a week.
That's why Sky decided to show a championship match on Thursdays, it was because someone else showed interest.
They know what product they have, they just choose to reduce what it's worth and its exposure eaxh year.
Why?
We all know deep down.'"
In England the media treat our game like 5h1t.
Yes we get better ratings for the SL than the Premiership but at times Sky treat us like we are always playing second fiddle to union.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"In England the media treat our game like 5h1t.'"
This is down the the RFL being run by and employing people from a certain area of the UK that enforces the media's belief that RL is a regional pastime. The RFL Media team needs to be rebuilt from top to toe with a new, hungry breed of employee who will badger the press, radio, TV etc until the game gets better coverage.
Quote ="cjhatesunion"Yes we get better ratings for the SL than the Premiership but at times Sky treat us like we are always playing second fiddle to union.'"
CORRECT......and this is not the result of some secret IRB agenda either......it is down purely to the "demographic" of the audiences for both codes....which is a big issue.
Twickenham sells out in minutes or a 6 nations game, with prices from 75 to 500 for a ticket...the RFL can't fill Leigh at 15 notes a ticket......and this is what makes SKY get a hard on for Union. The Landrover ads generate more cash than the hair replacement ones......it's simple commerce...nothing more, nothing less
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| yes gutters, the government is going to scarp the cross media laws
why didnt they do this in the past when murdoch wanted a Free to air station
australian politicians are very worried about conentration of ownership of the media, thats why theyve got these laws in place
you can think of any scenario you want but in the real world they arent happening.
mixing ownership of newspapers and TV is a big worry for the government
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| Quote ="dally messenger"yes gutters, the government is going to scarp the cross media laws '" ...never said they would or would have to.
Quote ="dally messenger"why didnt they do this in the past when murdoch wanted a Free to air station'" ...launch or Buy?
Quote ="dally messenger"australian politicians are very worried about conentration of ownership of the media, thats why theyve got these laws in place '" ...you are not alone...the UK is the same....that's why ITV "might be" purchased....if the Govt accept the deal that the ITV board already have.
Quote ="dally messenger"you can think of any scenario you want but in the real world they arent happening.'" ...yes they are...in the world they are.
Quote ="dally messenger"mixing ownership of newspapers and TV is a big worry for the government'" ...and rightly so....but people vote in elections......the Media influence people.....that's the reality of the REAL WORLD.....even on your little poisoned rock
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| ok ill settle this the easy way - lets bet. like others on here when asked to back their opinions they usually just go away
$100 bet
youve got 6 months for murdoch to have his own FTA channel.
accepted?
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| now now Dally you know you don't bet! and if you do after all get on the attendance bet for charity thread and put your money where your mouth is!!!
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| now now Dally you know you don't bet! and if you do after all get on the attendance bet for charity thread and put your money where your mouth is!!!
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"now now Dally you know you don't bet! and if you do after all get on the attendance bet for charity thread and put your money where your mouth is!!!'"
the funniest thing ive ever read on RL forums was you on the david gallop interview thread describing yourself as a stakeholder in the nrl
i laughed at that for 10 mins
and typical nutters didnt take the bet the silly troll
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| way to avoid!
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''The AFL's problem is that Melbourne is its only major market, with Adelaide and Perth minor markets,'' one industry source said. ''The great thing for the NRL is they have Sydney and Brisbane.'
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''The AFL's problem is that Melbourne is its only major market, with Adelaide and Perth minor markets,'' one industry source said. ''The great thing for the NRL is they have Sydney and Brisbane.'
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| Quote ="dally messenger"ok ill settle this the easy way - lets bet. like others on here when asked to back their opinions they usually just go away
$100 bet
youve got 6 months for murdoch to have his own FTA channel.
accepted?
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Quote ="dally messenger"and typical nutters didnt take the bet the silly troll'"
Oh dear.....DiM wants me to take a bet on something that I said may happen.........I actually said
Quote ="gutterfax" No amount of "regulations" will stop him if he wishes to buy 100% of the rights to the NRL........he will find a way of getting the required amount of games on FTA TV if he does this'"
...so where did I say he would have his own FTA channel within 6 months? Seriously DiM.....stop trying to win a debate with a bet that has nothing to do with it. You, as usual, have nothing to add to the debate so you are employing childish tactics to try and deflect attention away from the fact that you are a know nothing keyboard warrior........and a bad one at that
As has been suggested.....find the charity bet thread and put your Pocket Money where your mouth is
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But Nine, which plans to float this year, needs rugby league, and is unlikely to risk an under-valued first bid.
The purchase of 20 per cent of Channel Ten by James Packer and Lachlan Murdoch has raised the spectre of the opponents in the Super League war
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But Nine, which plans to float this year, needs rugby league, and is unlikely to risk an under-valued first bid.
The purchase of 20 per cent of Channel Ten by James Packer and Lachlan Murdoch has raised the spectre of the opponents in the Super League war
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| Quote ="dally messenger"and typical nutters didnt take the bet the silly troll'"
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| And Telstra, given the national broadband roll-out, won't give up its BigPond rights without a legal fight.
"While Seven plans to bid for all NRL games, owning State of Origin, with its three games always appearing in the year's top 20 programs, would guarantee a ratings win for the year."
forgot about the battle for online media thatll add more dollars for us. the nrl has got to do this slowly, theres a lot of money coming its way but its got to negotitate slowly and carefully.
weve got the TV rights in australia providing a big increase, then the online rights which telstra got too cheaply, the main nrl sponsor rights and the tv rights in nz
handled correctly well have more money than we know what to do with
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| Quote ="dally messenger"[ the nrl has got to do this slowly, theres a lot of money coming its way but its got to negotitate slowly and carefully.
.................handled correctly well have more money than we know what to do with'"
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Firstly, I suspect the people in charge of the negotiations are professionals....I am sure they are genuinely grateful for your advice though
Secondly...unless you work for the NRL....stop using the word "we" in reference to the NRL......you are a fan DiM.......you are not part of the collective "we'.
...lastly, use the letters "IMO' after you post your opinion.....it gets confusing because you notmally only post url's.....HTH
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| Brisbane pop = 2mill
Perth+Adelaide pop = 2.85mill
yeh I'm sure he knows what he's talking about!
Sydney + Brisbane = 6.5mill
Melbourne + Perth + Adel = 6.8 mill
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Brisbane pop = 2mill
Perth+Adelaide pop = 2.85mill
yeh I'm sure he knows what he's talking about!
Sydney + Brisbane = 6.5mill
Melbourne + Perth + Adel = 6.8 mill'"
you tell him hes wrong then
of course once you include places like newcastle, gold coast etc it shows how we dwarf AFL in the population battle
thanks for the help
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| but he didn't mentions state, he talked about capital cities and showed the usual East coast ignorance that you get in the media over there.
and what's with the Telstra legal fight? On what grounds? When the contract runs out what are they going to take the NRL to court over? Not one of his best articles by a long shot.
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