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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Really? 100k Rl fans subscribing to Sky = $50million quid a year. They pay out 10million quid a year currently for SL. Then add income from advertising during SL games and RL shows and Sky is doing very nicely thank you out of RL.'"
They currently pay around 17 million a year to SL
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| SKY have insisted on a guaranteed London based SL team-from a prominent figure at Quins yesterday.
Chew on that when walking your whippets this afternoon
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| Quote ="Fully"My maths tells me that £50,000,000 divided by 100,000 = £500 a year.
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| It would seem the standard of maths being taught in Cas and Leeds was very poor about 40 years ago
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| Quote ="wire-quin"SKY have insisted on a guaranteed London based SL team-from a prominent figure at Quins yesterday.
Chew on that when walking your whippets this afternoon'"
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| Quote ="wire-quin"SKY have insisted on a guaranteed London based SL team-from a prominent figure at Quins yesterday.
Chew on that when walking your whippets this afternoon'"
Excellent , now maybe they'll start to help you lot make a success of it
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| Quote ="tb"Merde!
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However, you are right. There's not going to be 100,000 households/people who pay for just rugby league. I'd say that some of them will also be football fans/cricket fans etc and so will be contributing to the rights for them.
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| Quote ="Fully"However, you are right. There's not going to be 100,000 households/people who pay for just rugby league. I'd say that some of them will also be football fans/cricket fans etc and so will be contributing to the rights for them.'"
I guess that is a very hard thing to prove or disprove, how many people would cancel their Sky subscription (or at least the sports package) if Sky dropped SL/RL? I'd be surprised if their wasn't at least 100k who are motivated to have it because they are RL fans.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"I guess that is a very hard thing to prove or disprove, how many people would cancel their Sky subscription (or at least the sports package) if Sky dropped SL/RL? I'd be surprised if their wasn't at least 100k who are motivated to have it because they are RL fans.'"
My Sky Sports subscription is cancelled when the season/4 nations is finished and restarted when it returns. There are quite a few who do a similar thing so I understand.
I just go watch the amateurs play during the winter months.
There is very little other sport that interests me that I can't find out about from other sources.
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| Quote ="Red Red Robin"If we can get ESPN on board to show games as well as Sky I don't see how it can be bad for Super League. Having the Friday and Saturday night games on Sky and a Sunday lunchtime game on ESPN would be ideal IMO. The RFL should also look into whether having seperate rights for the playoffs would be workable. If there is a chance that it could be then why not? They are going to need all the money they can get from this new deal. The BBC, for example, won't want to show a league game every week but a live playoff game may be more tempting, as they will only be giving up four weeks of their scheduling for them.
One thing that can definitely improved on is highlight shows. One thing that there should be is a proper highlights show, preferably on Sunday night on Sky after every game has been played, with detailed analysis of how and why key tries were scored. There could also be a Soccer AM/Footy Show style programme for ESPN.
In my dream ideal world this is how the league season TV wise would go
Friday 8pm ko- Sky
Saturday 6pm ko - Sky
Sunday 12:30pm ko - ESPN
The first week of the playoffs would be like this
Friday 8pm ko - Sky
Saturday 3pm ko - BBC
Sunday 12:30 ko - ESPN
Sunday 3pm ko - BBC
then for the next two weeks followed by
Saturday 3pm ko - BBC
Sunday 3pm ko - Sky or ESPN
For the Grand Final itself I'm not too sure. It does need to be on the BBC somehow. Maybe it could be rotated between the three channels, like the Superbowl used to be in the states.'"
Super League going head to head with the sunday lunchtime EPL football game would be crazy. Also I dont support this idea that the Grand Final has to be on BBC. Yes it would be nice but FTA shouldnt get some free pass. Nobody is stopping the BBC bid for Super League but they refuse to pay the going rate. Sky have been great for RL and I have no problem with them keeping all the TV rights although I do want to see them improve their coverage!
Also Super League on ESPN is not an option unless they decide to bring ESPN 2 to the platform. Sunday lunchtime on ESPN is Serie A coverage.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"I guess that is a very hard thing to prove or disprove, how many people would cancel their Sky subscription (or at least the sports package) if Sky dropped SL/RL? I'd be surprised if their wasn't at least 100k who are motivated to have it because they are RL fans.'"
The games don't even get 100k viewers so I doubt 100k people will be that bothered about RL not being on Sky
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| Quote ="Gaslight"The games don't even get 100k viewers so I doubt 100k people will be that bothered about RL not being on Sky
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Which TV viewing figures have you been looking at?!
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Which TV viewing figures have you been looking at?!'"
Not the BARB ones for sure.
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| Personally speaking I always cancel my Sky Sports packages after the Grand Final,they usually ask me if I would like to keep it at a reduced price for a couple of months.I always decline and tell them the only reason I have it is for Rugby League,and have no interest whatsoever in watching hours and hours of Fairyball !!
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| Quote ="Gaslight"The games don't even get 100k viewers so I doubt 100k people will be that bothered about RL not being on Sky
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The Wakefield v Hull game, not exactly a massive draw for people got 104,000 viewers on a saturday at 7.30.
The Wigan v Leeds playoff game got 335,000 viewers.
I think we can safely say that RL games get 100,000 viewers on SKY.
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| I believe the current ESL deal is worth about 1,170,000 each to the current ESL clubs. This would mean that SKY TV would need to see about 17,000,000 in advertising revenue over the season to see any return on this investment.......if they sho on average 2 games a week that's 54 games, + 6 at MM and another 9 play off games.....or 250k in ad revenue per game. This is without the cost of getting the OB stuff around the country and picking up the tab for wiggies wigs and Stevos new dentures.......I somehow don't think they would be investing this much money for a sport that was getting 100k viewers.......I think the figure they actually get is nearer 500,000 viewers (or at least that's what they will tell their advertisers anyway).
Just so you're aware of the market values associated with RL.......Gillette sponsored the last UK 4 nations at the last minute...the initial price tag was 300k.....they didn't pay that much.
A new TV deal? I suspect that it will be little improved on the current one. With Crusaders and possibly Wakey going into administration over the last few weeks, the RFL will need to assure their principle revenue stream that everything is going to be OK. I would think the best the RFL could hope for is a 3 year deal at maybe 55 more per club.......then ensure that no other clubs go belly up and try to negotiate harder next time around.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I believe the current ESL deal is worth about 1,170,000 each to the current ESL clubs. This would mean that SKY TV would need to see about 17,000,000 in advertising revenue over the season to see any return on this investment.......if they sho on average 2 games a week that's 54 games, + 6 at MM and another 9 play off games.....or 250k in ad revenue per game. This is without the cost of getting the OB stuff around the country and picking up the tab for wiggies wigs and Stevos new dentures.......I somehow don't think they would be investing this much money for a sport that was getting 100k viewers.......I think the figure they actually get is nearer 500,000 viewers (or at least that's what they will tell their customers around.'"
Don't forget the cost of filming the 28 Championship matches for free as well
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| Quote ="Starbug"Don't forget the cost of filming the 28 Championship matches for free as well
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yeah...those I-Phones are good aren't they
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| Quote ="gutterfax"yeah...those I-Phones are good aren't they
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| Quote ="Starbug"Daughter I Pad'"
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Is that a typo?
If not all I can say is those blokes at Apple think of everything
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| Quote ="gutterfax"?
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I've been booted off that now , posting on her lap top now
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| Quote ="Starbug" , posting on her lap top now'"
Are you not a bit heavy for her
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| Quote ="gutterfax"icon_eek.gif
Are you not a bit heavy for her
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Ha Ha , funny funny , my computer's no good since the quality of coal dropped off , you cant get the level of pressure any more
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| Quote ="Starbug"Ha Ha , funny funny , my computer's no good since the quality of coal dropped off , you cant get the level of pressure any more
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