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| Quote ="Pepe"I think there can now be no doubt, even in the minds of the RFL apologists on these boards, about the lying duplicity of the RFL. What little integrity and credibility they had left is now in shreds.
To tell the Championship clubs one thing and the officials at Toulouse another in order to get agreement on their entry, and then simply change the rules they agreed with the Championship, stinks. This truly is deceitful and totally disrespectful to all Championship clubs.
I fear for this league's future while being governed by the RFL.'"
The RFLiars apologists on here will still continue to have their heads buried firmly in their hands with their fingers in their ears no matter how many lies the RFLiars tell.
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| How do you know that Widnes aren't part of the RFL's promotion plan? This could mean that two SL are coming down OR the RFL are just paying lip service to Toulouse.
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| Thats not what they publicly said a few weeks ago. One team from the championship will be promoted they said and SL staying at 14
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| Dont fret Widnes fans.
Salford and Wakefield out, Toulouse and Widnes in.
Simple
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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"Dont fret Widnes fans.
Salford and Wakefield out, Toulouse and Widnes in.
Simple'"
This isnt just about Widnes fans. This is about all British clubs in the Championship that have ambition of playing in the SL.
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| They would be much better served to just come clean and admit that they want an expansion team in the next round of licenses instead of changing the goal posts and creating an uneven Championship competition and application procedure. Nothing wrong with the objective of having Toulouse in SL, it's the way they go about it that just aggravates people and makes things unfair.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Thats not what they publicly said a few weeks ago. One team from the championship will be promoted they said and SL staying at 14'"
Think the actual wording was that one team was [i guaranteed[/i promotion. In theory you could have any number of teams promoted if they put forward better applications than existing SL clubs.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"This isnt just about Widnes fans. This is about all British clubs in the Championship that have ambition of playing in the SL.'"
Absolutely... if two teams are to drop and Toulouse don't make the GF final.. then it should be between Barrow, Fax or anyone else that manages to win the NR Cup or reach the GF.
The integrity of the game is in tatters this morning,
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| Quote ="littlerich"How do you know that Widnes aren't part of the RFL's promotion plan? This could mean that two SL are coming down OR the RFL are just paying lip service to Toulouse.'"
What’s wrong is wrong. If there is no faith in the integrity of the governing body of the sport, that sport is in trouble. Every decision they make will be questioned and distrusted by those affected by it.
A sport, above all others, needs to be fair and honest. Without this it is worthless.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"This isnt just about Widnes fans. This is about all British clubs in the Championship that have ambition of playing in the SL.'"
Correct!
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| Sounds like common sense to me. Toulouse can not be judged on the same criteria as the Championship clubs.
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| The correct course of action here is a law suit brought by all of the affected parties....
Let's take these clowns in red hall to task..
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| Makes the game pointless below SL. If they can't be judged on the same criteria, then they should just get lost.
I know lets promote Leeds United up two divisions because they have a nice stadium and their chairman is loaded (don't know if he is any more), but you get the picture. If they want premiership football again they have to earn it.
Lets have Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish teams, but why do we have French teams, hang on I think I have just got it. Something in that article said that they could bring a TV deal to the table....got it its all about money.
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"Sounds like common sense to me. Toulouse can not be judged on the same criteria as the Championship clubs.'"
Why not?
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| Quote ="In EnemyTerritory"The correct course of action here is a law suit brought by all of the affected parties....
Let's take these clowns in red hall to task..'"
What form would the law suit take? The RFL are completely free to run the sport however they like. You could try the Court of Arbitration in Sport but I'm not sure that the RFL would be under any legal obligation to implement any ruling.
Plus there's the tiny problem of the bye-law which states that any club engaged in legal action against the RFL is automatically suspended from all RFL run competitions...
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| Did anyone mention Hitler.
Well if the 22 Championship clubs took the joint action, I would quite happily miss a few Sundays just to see dick(head) lewis get the boot
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Did anyone mention Hitler'"
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"Sounds like common sense to me. Toulouse can not be judged on the same criteria as the Championship clubs.'"
So why did the RFL not just come out and say it in the first place instead of lying?
I think you have missed the point some distance.
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"Sounds like common sense to me. Toulouse can not be judged on the same criteria as the Championship clubs.'"
So the RFL should have stated that a year ago instead of looking like complete pricks.
Again.
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"Sounds like common sense to me. Toulouse can not be judged on the same criteria as the Championship clubs.'"
If it makes sense, then why not state it in the first place and put their case forward?
Why tell a pack of lies to its member clubs?
How is that in any way excusable?
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| My point was simply it is effectively a dictatorship. The franchise rules were the same 'if you want to apply, you cannot question or take legal action over the decision'...this was obviously because the decisions had already been made and a challenge would have been won in the High Court
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Epic Fail.
Widnes, Barrow and Halifax can apply. You have to either win the NRC or appear in the grand final.'"
to be fair, Toulouse cannot win the NRC - so I dont think that can be a valid comparison between clubs.
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| As stated else where there was a plan for them to take part this year. Not sure how or why that plan fell by the wayside.
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| Quote ="Kosh"What form would the law suit take? The RFL are completely free to run the sport however they like. You could try the Court of Arbitration in Sport but I'm not sure that the RFL would be under any legal obligation to implement any ruling.
Plus there's the tiny problem of the bye-law which states that any club engaged in legal action against the RFL is automatically suspended from all RFL run competitions...'"
This isn’t just a rule change. It is a change in an agreement which was voted on by member clubs.
Perhaps it’s now time for the member clubs to make a stand?
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"to be fair, Toulouse cannot win the NRC - so I dont think that can be a valid comparison between clubs.'"
They could if they entered it, but they refuse to.
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