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| Who says we had to sell players? How much where the squad paid last year i am assuming you know this? Maybe we didn't want to spend up to the 1.5 maybe we knew we had a hefty tax bill coming? too many questions to make so many assumptions and you should never assume anything.
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| Quote ="captaincaveman"the fact is that no team in superleague (to my knowledge) is bringing in enough money to spend the full salary cap and are instead going cap in hand to their sugar daddies or racking up huge debts.'"
You need to do a little more research.
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| I don't actually think that the only reason Atkins went was to pay this one bill...
but either way, I don't see anything wrong with deciding how much you can spend, and only spending that amount. Wakefield are doing pretty well with other people's cast offs, so why would we want to hang on to players that want to go elsewhere for more money.
Good accounting if you ask me (and it's been a long time since anyone has been able to say that about Wakefield)
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| Quote ="PopTart"I don't actually think that the only reason Atkins went was to pay this one bill...
but either way, I don't see anything wrong with deciding how much you can spend, and only spending that amount. Wakefield are doing pretty well with other people's cast offs, so why would we want to hang on to players that want to go elsewhere for more money.
Good accounting if you ask me (and it's been a long time since anyone has been able to say that about Wakefield)'"
How can having a tax debt of £350K+ and going down to the wire in the courts with the tax authorities be deemed good accounting. It is great news for the club/fans that the debt has been paid.
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| if the money came from the funds realized from the sale of BV then thats a real worry.
SL needs as many clubs as possible who can SUSTAINABLY spend the full salary cap
i really hope the clubs gets a new ground soon
if fax and leigh can get their acts together they could easily be like widnes a few years down the track and knocking out SL clubs like cas, salford etc for a SL spot
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| Quote ="dally messenger"if the money came from the funds realized from the sale of BV then thats a real worry.
SL needs as many clubs as possible who can SUSTAINABLY spend the full salary cap
i really hope the clubs gets a new ground soon
if fax and leigh can get their acts together they could easily be like widnes a few years down the track and knocking out SL clubs like cas, salford etc for a SL spot'"
How the hell have Hull KR sneeked under the radar with all this talk about sub standard grounds? "New" CP is on a par with Cas at best!
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| Quote ="who needs flankers?"How the hell have Hull KR sneeked under the radar with all this talk about sub standard grounds? "New" CP is on a par with Cas at best!'"
It's a decent point, but its probably that it would be much easier to redevelop New Craven Park than it would Wheldon Road.
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| Quote ="BigRob"It's a decent point, but its probably that it would be much easier to redevelop New Craven Park than it would Wheldon Road.'"
Yea... Just let the gale from the North sea blow it down and then rebuild it from rubble.
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| Quote ="who needs flankers?"How the hell have Hull KR sneeked under the radar with all this talk about sub standard grounds? "New" CP is on a par with Cas at best!'"
look what hull kr have managed to achieved in their short time in SL compared to both cas and wakey.
their ground is improving, they spend full salary cap, they have a good away following.
it mightnt be the best ground in SL but it is improving.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"look what hull kr have managed to achieved in their short time in SL compared to both cas and wakey.
their ground is improving, they spend full salary cap, they have a good away following.
it mightnt be the best ground in SL but it is improving.'"
hey Lizzie Dripping,
you forgot they're £3 million in debt!
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| Quote ="dally messenger"SL needs as many clubs as possible who can SUSTAINABLY spend the full salary cap
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Quote ="dally messenger"look what hull kr have managed to achieved in their short time in SL compared to both cas and wakey.
their ground is improving, they spend full salary cap, they have a good away following.
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Hull KR, even with their excellent core of support, are not currently sustainable without excessive outside funding. Were that to discontinue they would be up the creek.
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| Quote ="The Clan"hey Lizzie Dripping,
[uyou forgot they're £3 million in debt[/u!'"
Minor point that does not fit the agenda maybe?
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| Quote ="The Clan"hey Lizzie Dripping,
you forgot they're £3 million in debt!'"
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Hull KR, even with their excellent core of support, are not currently sustainable without excessive outside funding. Were that to discontinue they would be up the creek.'"
so are most SL clubs spending the full cap.
Hull KR are a growing club
if they keep up current trends they wont need outside funding to spend full cap
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Minor point that does not fit the agenda maybe?'"
you dont see Hull KR being hit with a winding up order unlike wakey were
guess why that is ?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"you dont see Hull KR being hit with a winding up order unlike wakey were
guess why that is ?'"
Thats because the owe money to the right people.
HMRC are, rightly, very unforgiving with money owed to them. See Crystal Palace and the threats imposed on Portsmouth and Notts County.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Minor point that does not fit the agenda maybe?'"
Quite,
maybe it's intentional but Lizzies ignorance of the details and real facts might also play a part in his deluded view of the situation over here. It could also be that he's intentionaly being obtuse and stupid which would explain why he refuses to acknowledge the truth even when it's backed up by facts.
He could also just be an obnoxious pr|[k who loves to sh'it stir.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Thats because the owe money to the right people.
HMRC are, rightly, very unforgiving with money owed to them. See Crystal Palace and the threats imposed on Portsmouth and Notts County.'"
lucky hull kr then eh?
(hint im being sarcastic)
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| Quote ="dally messenger"lucky hull kr then eh?
(hint im being sarcastic)'"
Yes very lucky. But as long as the person underwriting Hull KR’s loses is happy then they're fine.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Yes very lucky. But as long as the person underwriting Hull KR’s loses is happy then they're fine.'"
clubs have directors who put funds into the club.
maybe if wakey had the same kind of outside support they could pay their tax bills on time.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"clubs have directors who put funds into the club.
maybe if wakey had the same kind of outside support they could pay their tax bills on time.'"
Indeed and they could be held up as a shining example by yourself as to how a SL club should be run.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"clubs have directors who put funds into the club.
maybe if wakey had the same kind of outside support they could pay their tax bills on time.'"
7323 posts
...any chance of a sensible one?
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| Maybe if all clubs ran themselves like a business with income and expenditure balancing themselves out, yet producing a team that can reach 5th in the league one year and a CC semi final the previous one, we might then have a sport which is not dependent on The size of TV contracts.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Maybe if all clubs ran themselves like a business with income and expenditure balancing themselves out, yet producing a team that can reach 5th in the league one year and a CC semi final the previous one, we might then have a sport which is not dependent on The size of TV contracts.'"
and selling off their ground to pay off their tax bills too.
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