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| Quote ="braytontiger"im going to throw a name into the hat that has
international experiance has a player
respect of both players and fans
comes accross has a great motivator
passionate for the british game
and is english
karl harrison
i know some will laugh but he`s exactly the kind of guy we need in the dressing room to fire us up.'"
Not a bad shout that pal
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| Lets put the coaching thing etc into perspective.
I you give a mechanic the parts to build a Lada car and the basic plans it's highly likely the mechanic will make a Lada
Conversely if you the mechanic the parts and the basic plans to build a Rolls Royce it's probable that the mechanic will make a Rolls Royce.
Both will perform their basic function well but it's what else they will do and how easily. No matter how you tinker with the Lada it will never be of Rolls Royce standard unless the parts are changed and it ceases to be a LADA but becomes something else.
Even the greatest mechnic can only use the tools, equipment and parts that there are available.
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| Has to be John Kear, best English coach around and I believe he'd get the full backing from supporters in RL.
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| Quote ="Cheshire Tiger"Not a bad shout that pal'"
I agree - it's awful
The best British coach in the game at the moment is Brian Noble, but he has been there and done that before. Second to him is John Kear, but he would be a backwards step from Tony Smith IMO.
I would look at a current NRL head coach for the job. I don't care about nationalities too much, I just want the best man for the job.
I will add that having former England internationals around the coaching team is a good idea too - Kris Radlinski being a great example. Anyone else notice the improvement from Peter Fox and Shaun Briscoe? What's Ellery Hanley up to these days? Paul Sculthorpe? etc.
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| Quote ="cherrydevil"icon_lol.gif
I am sorry I just didnt bother to read any more after that. Ask any player who has played under Noble and they might disagree.'"
Name a better British coach.
Steve McNamara
Brian McDermott
Richard Agar
Karl Harrison
Paul Cullen
None of them come close to BN and would be way out of their depth at International level.
The only coach who is British and comes close to him is John Kear.
I don't think Brian Noble is a wonder coach, but he is the best of a poor bunch.
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| Kear ticks all the boxes for me, I think people underestimate him as a coach becuase of the way he comes across, I used to myself. The man is a rugby league obsessive and has a lot of knowledge, he has a proven track record of winning when needed and can motivate a team for a one off games, One thing that would surprise many people about him is that for a coach who has been around for a long time and has a lot of experience he is still very open minded and willing to try new things, I remember his first pre season in charge of Hull he brought in specialist coaches for certain players from other sports for sprinting, kicking, wrestling etc I remember reading interviews with some off them who were very impressed with what he was trying to do.
I think its fair to say that his teams do not always play total free flowing rugby, he has has his teams organised but I think that it would also be unfair to simply call it 5 drives and kick, it was sensible approach only throwing the ball around when it was needed to do so, but lets face it our backs and halves are dross compared to what the Aussies can field, we can only get close to them in the forwards so an approach like that would be the best option.
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| Quote ="Paul124897"Wayne Bennett?'"
Yes, yes, yes and yes!
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| Quote ="Marcus Notsquare"Kris Radlinski has been obvious by his presence the last couple of weeks.'"
I hope his long term future is at Wigan, work through the ranks with us first.
England will go with someone with more experience than Rads.
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| Quote ="Fly'in Scotsman"I hope his long term future is at Wigan, work through the ranks with us first.
England will go with someone with more experience than Rads.'"
Lets just hope they include him in the England coaching set up and maybe one day he may take the coaching position.
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| jon kear would be the wrong man, great motivator but thats it
needs to be someone who knows super league well and to carry onwhat tony smith has started
shaun edwards first choice but doubt we will get him
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| Quote ="brearley84"jon kear would be the wrong man, great motivator but thats it
needs to be someone who knows super league well and to carry onwhat tony smith has started
shaun edwards first choice but doubt we will get him'"
Contradiction somewhere in this post but not sure where
SL is part of the reason for the games decline here but not the only reason.
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| Eddie and Stevo is my option, put up or shut up time for these two, if they don't win every game they should be banished from our tv screens for ever!!!
[size=75Just in case the RFL read this I am joking,there allowed to lose one[/size
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| John Kear for me (best english coach by a country mile....unless you could somehow get edwards back)
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| Quote ="adelaide-giant.no9"that french team played well for the first half in each game .. for the players under his disposal he did a good job at the four nations. wont get england job though'"
Thats what we need then.
A shared coaching berth. Goulding as half time coach to keep us in the game, and Noble as second half coach due to his ability to get teams to play only in the second half of EVERYTHING usually when it is too late!!
Goulding and Nobby for joint England Coaches!
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| They should use it as an excuse to disband the international game for a few years. It just doesn't work.
How many other sports are there with an international aspect where the 3rd best side in the world can't beat the no 1 side?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"They should use it as an excuse to disband the international game for a few years. It just doesn't work.'"
It obviously does work because plenty of people watch and enjoy it. This includes many people who dont normally watch RL but they watch internationals because it involves an England representative team. It also makes money for the respective countries and the international board for the general good of the game and the development of the game.
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| merged – both threads essentially discussing the same thing
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| Brian McClennan and Michael Maguire. One has been at the helm of the best British club in the last year or so and the other has been assistant to arguably the best club team (I don’t agree) in the world.
We need England Training Sessions every month so players get used to playing with each other. However I know that will be hard for Ellis and Burgess but it seems that they aren’t the problem and are players that will slot into any team in the world.
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