I'm not convinced it was a knock on.

They both battled for the ball. Carvell had it, Roby reefs it back it hits his head, Carvell regains it, and runs on.

Good battle for a ball, that had a winner and a loser. Christ if that video ref had have had any doubt he certainly wouldn't have gone against Saints of all teams.

Close your eyes, put your hands over your ears and a sing a happy song, and all will be well in the world of officiating.

Give over. It's like taking a crisp digital image and brushing over it with watercolours to blur the lines of truth in order to produce a more romantic image. He knocked on at least twice and didn't have control over it until he'd left Roby behind.

I've slowed it down and there are two very clear knocks on by both players plus the one from Roby which lead to it. I'm all for benefit of the doubt, but when it's as clear cut as that it gets ridiculous. The acid test for me was the dejected reaction of the Wire fans in the room watching it with me. When they saw the replay they were convinced it was NO-TRY.

No one but you has actually suggested it wasn't a knock on. The Sky team and everyone on here in support of the try has used the 'moral outcome ruling', which I reckon could take hold like the famed momentum rule.

I'm sorry but your use of the word "reef" in that context automatically voids your opinion.

Too right they gave it a try! Some of the technicalities these days are ridiculous, it didn't hit the floor, so it should be play on anyway! he's probably never scored a try over 10 metres anyway give him a break. You probably won't see a prop score like that all year you miserable sods.

You've no idea what constitutes a knock-on have you?




I can only assume that Ganson rules either a) Carvell regathered the ball before it touched Roby (which would require some 'interesting' eyesight) or that Roby knocked on first and advantage was played.

That has so much merit









I may just try it

That also takes some buying when you consider it bounced between them like a pinball so surely they BOTH knocked it on!
Not having a go at you tb just saying like.

Don't think you can play on after 2 knock ons, can you?

He scored a 60 metre try for Hull against Catalans a couple of years back from first reciever at a scrum.

if the video ref wasnt there, it still would have been given.

but the video ref was there,so it should be used.it clearly showed a knock on,so the try should have been ruled out.simple logic.
if leeds' try at bradford on good friday was ruled out for a knock on,so should carvells.the trouble is the lack of consistency.

Two wrongs make a right

No it wouldn't. Silverwood saw it clearly because he asked them to check it. Given the obvious level of doubt there is no way he would have given that back in the day before technology came along.

If there is any doubt (which there must have been given that he went to the video ref) a try should be given.

It was clearly a try.

I know this because three letters - T R Y - flashed up on the big screen and Warrington's score increased by four points.

Stop being so pedantic and reward something a bit different. We should bin the video refs, what happens happens it kills any gamesmanship and luck. Those things should be part of the game, they are what create talking points, heroes and villians. Bloody video refs kill them!

I think you missed a comma

In the English language, that is a synonym for 'cheating'. Which should be removed from the game.

Are you using the word in some other way?

Or is it just, like 'knock on', another word you don't know the meaning of?

Hey … I'm just saying that I can only see two possible rulings that would allow the try to be given. Not making any comment on the validity of those rulings

Similar to how NFL style forward passes are ignored, or offsides at alsmot every play the ball.

Bizarre.

Saints fans are just ed cause a prop dicked all of your team for speed.

I can't imagine how vexed we would be if we had beaten a team only once in 30 odds meetings then.

Don't go claiming any records, Carvell's achievement was hardly a shock for us. Wayne McDonald once went on a 60 metre gallop with our pacy backline chasing slowly behind.

Rather than us being 'vexed' (I guess all the neutrals are just jealous of the Wire too?) is it not that you are slightly bitter about once more falling short in a should-win game against Saints? Forward passes killed us









Nothing to do with a diminutive teenager tearing holes in your defense then or the fact your players once more gave up after 70 minutes?

100% knock on, video confirmed it time N time again, saints players walked out form behind the line in readiness to play on, no idea how they got a TRY for it... sure was a great try though, you could hear the "go on, go on, go on, go onnnnnn2 belowing out the southstand... I just stood there and thought "dont worry ade gardner is so fast he will nail him"...

Ganson needs arresting !