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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Have you been asking your 'special friends' to squeel like a pig?
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hey if you want to be the one telling married men they shouldnt be cheating, its not going to leave you with much of a life.
me, id just be trying to get some myself.
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| Quote ="airliebird58"I watched the documentary that started this on a well known video sharing site, and this woman has been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. I'm sure she made that up too.
Whether it was consensual or not, this sort of activity boils down to the fact of having no respect for women. I agree though that Matty Johns has ended up being the fall guy for quite a few people it seems.'"
im sure if they tested her, she would be diagnosed with quite a few things.
she couldnt even remember how many players she slept with that night.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"hey if you want to be the one telling married men they shouldnt be cheating, its not going to leave you with much of a life.
me, id just be trying to get some myself.'"
So you have to have extra-marital relationships in order to have "much of a life" you are one very sad individual.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"you having a sex life?
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Happy married three children - yes even I have had and still have a sex life with a member of the opposite sex - unlike your goodself whose sex life consists of a relationship with the palms of either/both hands!!!
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| Quote ="dally messenger"hey if you want to be the one telling married men they shouldnt be cheating, its not going to leave you with much of a life.
me, id just be trying to get some myself.'"
Keep digging banjo boy.
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"Happy married three children - yes even I have had and still have a sex life with a member of the opposite sex - unlike your goodself whose sex life consists of a relationship with the palms of either/both hands!!!'"
ER dally messenger thinks a 'sex life' is gang banging some drunk woman with a dozen blokes watching. He thinks that is what heterosexuals do. I guess its all he knows.
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"If my sex life was splashed all over the national papers and it mentioned where I worked - I would be deemed to be damaging the reputation of my company - and contractually they would be within their rights to terminate my contract and my company would not hesitate in using it.
The company - Channel 9? has a reputation to protect - employing the likes of Johns after this would damage its reputation and potential revenue streams - simple really.
So do you think Johns should just continue on the Footy show as if nothing has happened?'"
Yes he should. He did nothing illegal. ONe's sex life is of no concern to anyone other than those partaking in the sex acts.
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| I don't think anyone comes out of this looking good.
It's just one big turd curled off by the Media for everyone to sniff and be disgusted by.
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| Quote ="Boris"Yes he should. He did nothing illegal. ONe's sex life is of no concern to anyone other than those partaking in the sex acts.'"
Unreal - even Johns himself knew his position was untenable - sex is not meant to be a spectator sport - using your position to take advantage of a nieve young girl and treating your wife and your marriage with such bravado - is that really the kind of guy you want fronting your show!!!
As I said unreal
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"ER dally messenger thinks a 'sex life' is gang banging some drunk woman with a dozen blokes watching. He thinks that is what heterosexuals do. I guess its all he knows.
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One thing is for sure he would be the one watching
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| Only thing he did wrong was cheat on his wife. If you are going to sack every TV presenter who does that then we are not going to have much air time!
Death by media, the whole thing is a friking joke. The womens colleagues are now coming out and paintaing a very different picture of her, including bragging about the event and sleeping with some RU players the night before the event.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"im sure if they tested her, she would be diagnosed with quite a few things.
she couldnt even remember how many players she slept with that night.'"
Now come on... The poor lass ended up in a very scary situation, and you expect her to count?!
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| She managed to count to two when she was bragging about shagging some RU players in a toilet the night before, maybe that is the limit of her mental capacity?
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"Unreal - even Johns himself knew his position was untenable - sex is not meant to be a spectator sport - using your position to take advantage of a nieve young girl and treating your wife and your marriage with such bravado - is that really the kind of guy you want fronting your show!!!
As I said unreal'"
These are your moral standards. Who says 'sex is not meant to be a spectator sport'? Yourself? Very good for you. Others clearly disagree, which is well within their right. For someone to lose their job over their perfectly legal sexual behaviour is a disgrace.
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| Quote ="airliebird58"Now come on... The poor lass ended up in a very scary situation, and you expect her to count?!'"
'Ended up'.
She ended up there out of her own free will.
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| Quote ="Boris"These are your moral standards. Who says 'sex is not meant to be a spectator sport'? Yourself? Very good for you. Others clearly disagree, which is well within their right. For someone to lose their job over their perfectly legal sexual behaviour is a disgrace.'"
Okay lets take your view that people have different moral standards.
So Johns did ,and some on here do, think banging a woman in front of 12 onlookers is acceptable.
The TV and Storm bosses have their standards. They do not find it acceptable behaviour for their staff. So they do not employ Johns any more.
There are industries where gang bangs are mainstream. Johns can earn a good living there and several posters on here can watch to their hearts content.
See everyone is happy
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| lets not beat about the bush most men married or not would have done the same if there was in his shoes the fact is some men will admit it some will just dream about it
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| Quote ="Boris"These are your moral standards. Who says 'sex is not meant to be a spectator sport'? Yourself? Very good for you. Others clearly disagree, which is well within their right. For someone to lose their job over their perfectly legal sexual behaviour is a disgrace.'"
One of co-presenters Andrew Voss - also said that this kind of behaviour is acceptable to the vast majority of the population himself included.
You are entitled to your view - sadly his employers felt like most people that Johns' position was untenable - you cannot have the presenter of a sports programme aimed at a family audience behaving in this way and keep an semblence of credibility
What I also not understanding is if this is such normal behaviour how come none of the others involved have come out and admitted their involvement
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"One of co-presenters Andrew Voss - also said that this kind of behaviour is acceptable to the vast majority of the population himself included.
You are entitled to your view - sadly his employers felt like most people that Johns' position was untenable - you cannot have the presenter of a sports programme aimed at a family audience behaving in this way and keep an semblence of credibility
What I also not understanding is if this is such normal behaviour how come none of the others involved have come out and admitted their involvement'"
Not sure where I have stated that it is "normal".
His employees have the right to fire him if they believed his behaviour harmed their shows. But what has happened here is that Channel 9 have taken a 'moral stand' about someone's sexual habits and given into the thought police.
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| I agree with what was said on the footy show, Johns is taking the fall for basically all the recent off field incidents in recent years. Will things change?
It ups to players now to say i dont ever want something like this coming back and biting me on the ass. Whether they feel they are in the right or not, the media will pick on anything like this they hear players are involved in.
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| Quote ="Boris"Not sure where I have stated that it is "normal".
His employees have the right to fire him if they believed his behaviour harmed their shows. But what has happened here is that Channel 9 have taken a 'moral stand' about someone's sexual habits and given into the thought police.'"
You were saying that sex is a spectator sport - very few people would consider this kind of behaviour acceptable - only you and Dally think it is OK to have three way sex with 12 guys watching - as I said before unreal.
What is more unreal is that you actually think he could continue on the footy show as if nothing had happened with a audience half full of women - let's face the way he treated his wife show his morals to be pretty dispicable and shows him in his true light - or maybe you think women should see this as an occupational hazard of being married!!!!
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"You were saying that sex is a spectator sport - very few people would consider this kind of behaviour acceptable - only you and Dally think it is OK to have three way sex with 12 guys watching - as I said before unreal.
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I did not state it was 'acceptable'. I merely stated that it was your opinion that it was unacceptable. Please show where I stated it was acceptable. You inferred that from my comment-I did not state it.
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What is more unreal is that you actually think he could continue on the footy show as if nothing had happened with a audience half full of women - let's face the way he treated his wife show his morals to be pretty dispicable and shows him in his true light - or maybe you think women should see this as an occupational hazard of being married!!!!'"
I personally am not going to be passing moral judgement on anyone else's sexual behaviour. What makes me qualified to pass such judgment?
Second, if JOhns wishes to engage in group sex, then so be it. Nothing to do with me. What consenting adults do in their own bedrooms is up to them. His wife has the final decision vis-a-vis whether she deems John's infidelity as something she can forgive.
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| Quote ="Boris"I did not state it was 'acceptable'. I merely stated that it was your opinion that it was unacceptable. Please show where I stated it was acceptable. You inferred that from my comment-I did not state it.
I personally am not going to be passing moral judgement on anyone else's sexual behaviour. What makes me qualified to pass such judgment?
Second, if JOhns wishes to engage in group sex, then so be it. Nothing to do with me. What consenting adults do in their own bedrooms is up to them. His wife has the final decision vis-a-vis whether she deems John's infidelity as something she can forgive.'"
I have no problems with Johns doing exactly what he wants - what I cannot accept is all this - "he is being treated unfairly rubbish" - Johns knew exactly what he was getting in to and the potential reprocussions on his career if it came out - he simply got his cummupence
If you don't think their relationship is damaged beyond repair then you are nieve - if your wife - if you have one - did this to you would you just shrug your shoulders and go ok no probs - I doubt it.
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| Quote ="airliebird58"Now come on... The poor lass ended up in a very scary situation, and you expect her to count?!'"
scary situation?
she allowed them into the room.
you are right, the numbers are so high its probably hard for her to remember
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