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| Quote ="snowie"Do you speak for the club'"
Not at all, D.B will have his own views as always. I know that Newcastle are to discuss whether or not to participate imminently.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"It's not for me I don't think.
Most see through this 'Farcical Cup' as it is quite clearly a cheap "buy off" or to put it another way "Quiet Money" from the SL Clubs to send the little Championship Clubs packing. Let's also not forget that Super League will also save themselves a cool £250,000 as they use just half of the now not required parachute money of £500k to "pay off the children" & keep the other £250k ! The Super League Club owners are nothing if not all heart !
For me you can stick your £250k & your FOB OFF MONEY where the sun doesn't shine !'"
Is it not a case of trying to get some form of Championship rugby, rather than nothing, after the majority of Championship and League 1 clubs voted against a restart ?
The more interesting conundrum is what happens to Toronto's place next season.
They look to be gone and not coming back and it would therefore make sense to be working out just how their spot is taken and by whom.
After all, an 11 club comp isn't ideal, not least because of "Magic".
Equally, this would mean promoting a League 1 club to the Championship.
It's frustrating for everyone that there isn't a "proper" competition, in front of real fans but, it just doesn't seem possible and the drive to get SL games played is to ensure that Sky dont stop their payments.
As I say, not great for any club and they will all be burning more than their income.
The best that we can hope for is that there are no more casualties (assuming that Toronto are done).
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| I'm past caring right now, all down to Covid-19 admittedly. I like football also,but I've not watched one game without the fans. Don't watch NRL anyway, but watched highlights of some games. If Super League got cancelled also I wouldn't have been that bothered to be honest. Hopefully by the time the season restarts in whichever month in 2021, this horrible disease will be almost dormant, but I doubt it somehow. Yes, my glass is 'half empty' right now, quite literally.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"I can understand that for fans of the better Championship clubs this is no real replacement for the opportunity of getting in the top flight, so I get why they may be feeling annoyed. However, there's perhaps 5 clubs in that boat and the rest of us (because to me the Bulls weren't promotion candidates) have to carefully weigh up the costs of restarting versus the reward.
There's so many things to consider such as whether we can welcome some fans back to the grounds, the financial impact of furlough potentially stopping etc. What support if any would the clubs get for the day to day costs of getting back up and running, and is the £250,000 a winner-takes-all sum or a pot that will be spread thinner. At the moment, although it's a decent sum, it doesn't feel like the appropriate reward to mitigate the financial and logistical risks of entering.'"
A good assessment of the situation facing the 25 clubs. I would expect the far flung clubs like West Wales, London Skolars, Coventry and Toulouse will opt not to take part due to the travel costs. London Broncos could be a different case as they would have a good chance of winning it. For those less likely to contest the latter stages such as League 1 clubs and lower end Championship clubs the way the prize money is distributed may make their decisions for them. If those exiting early get little to nothing in prize money then I expect those clubs would also opt out.
I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being a round robin format followed by a final contested by 8 clubs or fewer.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"It's not for me I don't think.
Most see through this 'Farcical Cup' as it is quite clearly a cheap "buy off" or to put it another way "Quiet Money" from the SL Clubs to send the little Championship Clubs packing. Let's also not forget that Super League will also save themselves a cool £250,000 as they use just half of the now not required parachute money of £500k to "pay off the children" & keep the other £250k ! The Super League Club owners are nothing if not all heart !
For me you can stick your £250k & your FOB OFF MONEY where the sun doesn't shine !'"
If the competition only gives the winner £250,000 how much expense will the losers incur competing? Or is the £250K total prize money with everyone getting something?
Rochdale are refusing to play as they want to be fresh for the 2021 season and they don't want to be losing the Furlough support by starting up again.
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| Quote ="Donnyman"If the competition only gives the winner £250,000 how much expense will the losers incur competing? Or [uis the £250K total prize money with everyone getting something?
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Rochdale are refusing to play as they want to be fresh for the 2021 season and they don't want to be losing the Furlough support by starting up again.'"
I would guess that's what it should be. After saying that, no club will want to play at a loss. I think the finalist should benefit financially with the others covering their cost of playing. also i'm sure the players would want to get out there and have some game time too.
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| Rochdale, 'fax, Keighley and Sheffield all now confirmed as not taking part.
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"Rochdale, 'fax, Keighley and Sheffield all now confirmed as not taking part.'"
It look in serious danger of not happening, which is totally understandable.
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| Quote ="Donnyman"If the competition only gives the winner £250,000 how much expense will the losers incur competing? Or is the £250K total prize money with everyone getting something?
Rochdale are refusing to play as they want to be fresh for the 2021 season and they don't want to be losing the Furlough support by starting up again.'"
£35k for the winners- not much motivation to take part for the higher paid teams
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| Quote ="ColD"£35k for the winners- not much motivation to take part for the higher paid teams'"
They'd get a bit more than that as there is a reward for the group winners and runners up in the possible format published. Might just cover costs for the eventual winners.
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"They'd get a bit more than that as there is a reward for the group winners and runners up in the possible format published. Might just cover costs for the eventual winners.'"
The problem is they would have to bring players (and other staff) off furlough, it would need to be worth £250K to the winner as a minimum I would imagine.
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| How long is furlough is idea is to help people to get back to work at this rate they won't be back until next year for the start of the next season
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| Quote ="snowie"How long is furlough is idea is to help people to get back to work at this rate they won't be back until next year for the start of the next season'"
[url=https://www.gov.uk/government/news/chancellor-extends-furlough-scheme-until-octoberfurlough lasts until October[/url
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| Leigh Centurions have confirmed that they WILL be taking part in the competition.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Leigh Centurions have confirmed that they WILL be taking part in the competition.'" ![CLAP eusa_clap.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_clap.gif)
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| Is that £250.000 out of the millions the superleague was given from the government, if so where has the rest of the money gone, and is it all accountable too, I wonder lol
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| Quote ="Molsk111"Is that £250.000 out of the millions the superleague was given from the government, if so where has the rest of the money gone, and is it all accountable too, I wonder lol'"
That £250,000 is only half of what was going to the team who was relegated from SL as a parachute payment. So what about the other £250,000? ![Cool icon_cool.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_cool.gif)
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Not trying to derail the thread here but, if clubs are ok to participate in this, could some of them have remained in the Challenge Cup ?
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Not trying to derail the thread here but, if clubs are ok to participate in this, could some of them have remained in the Challenge Cup ?
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| Quote ="Molsk111"Is that £250.000 out of the millions the superleague was given from the government, if so where has the rest of the money gone, and is it all accountable too, I wonder lol'"
You do realise it was not given at all and it was a loan that has been offered IF the RFL wish to borrow from it?
It has to be paid back. Clubs can apply to the RFL for it however that could be rejected if the RFL don't see it being paid back.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Not trying to derail the thread here but, if clubs are ok to participate in this, could some of them have remained in the Challenge Cup ?'"
Maybe, but there would have been a few cricket scores as lower league players are still only training individually or in small groups.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Not trying to derail the thread here but, if clubs are ok to participate in this, could some of them have remained in the Challenge Cup ?'"
Not really. For at least one (and I'm pretty sure I've seen a second also say) entry is dependent on being able to have a certain sized (paying) crowd present, otherwise they can't afford to be in.
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"Off'"
Are you busy Dog? What do you mean by, off?
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