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| My honest advice to Leigh (and they are 'my' club) would be to concede the final now, rather than risk further embarrassing the Game, and putting players' health and welfare at risk again. It was 100% unacceptable yesterday, to expect thirteen players (down to twelve, after ten minutes) to play the full 80 minutes, without substitutions. The club has a duty of care to their players, and they failed miserably in that duty, yesterday - however willing those thirteen were.
To compete in a final, with anything less than a full complement of players, is to hold the Game in contempt and, even worse, to put the players' well-being at risk.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Isn't that exactly what you would expect him to say ?
A 55% cut in central funding is huge and despite the brave positive words, Fev (and Leigh) must be hurting like hell financially.
The Championship will be a great comp next season, with Fev, Leigh, Bradford, York, Toulouse all fighting hard for the coveted SL spot.
It may not appeal to masses outside the RL world but, they ought to have some of those games televised.'"
Agree, it should be a great competition next year. 'fax fans will be miffed you've missed them out, Batley can't do as poorly as they have this season and Sheffield also seem to be recruiting a fair squad. There'll also be Widnes and one of London/Toronto in the mix too.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Isn't that exactly what you would expect him to say ?
A 55% cut in central funding is huge and despite the brave positive words, Fev (and Leigh) must be hurting like hell financially.
The Championship will be a great comp next season, with Fev, Leigh, Bradford, York, Toulouse all fighting hard for the coveted SL spot.
It may not appeal to masses outside the RL world but, they ought to have some of those games televised.'"
Is a challenge from Bradford or York likely to materialise? Are they recruiting or going with much the same as this year?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"
The Championship will be a great comp next season, with Fev, Leigh, Bradford, York, Toulouse all fighting hard for the coveted SL spot.'"
Toulouse, Halifax, Widnes and London/Toronto will be the top 4 sides next year........ Leigh on current form will be lucky to stay up and Fev will be mid table.... Bradford and York are unknowns..... But I can see another half and half scenario with a top 6 streets ahead of a bottom 8....so nearly half/over half scenario.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Is a challenge from Bradford or York likely to materialise? Are they recruiting or going with much the same as this year?'"
Erm we aren’t in the championship just yet.
I think Workington might have something to say about that.
Let’s see how we fair on Sunday first.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Erm we aren’t in the championship just yet.
I think Workington might have something to say about that.
Let’s see how we fair on Sunday first.'" yep be nice to see a Cambrian side do well
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"A 55% cut in central funding is huge and despite the brave positive words, Fev (and Leigh) must be hurting like hell financially.
The Championship will be a great comp next season, with Fev, Leigh, Bradford, York, Toulouse all fighting hard for the coveted SL spot.'" Leigh are being liquidated and will be lucky to make it to the start of next season, let alone stay up with the inevitable points deduction.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Leigh are being liquidated and will be lucky to make it to the start of next season, let alone stay up with the inevitable points deduction.'"
Sadly it does look that way. It's never nice to see a club go to the wall, but it does highlight the situation we find ourselves as a sport in the UK. Either we atract more revenue through fans, sponsors and media rights, all have a sugar daddy, or cut a cloth accordingly.
Halifax would seem to be the prime example of what can be done, whilst Leigh are a sad example of what happens when the sugar daddy decides he's had enough....
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| Leigh are a long way from liquidation. Even if it's as bad as some would like to believe the next step would be administration. Someone will pick the club up for a song and they'll continue, probably in L1, but they will continue.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Sadly it does look that way. It's never nice to see a club go to the wall, but it does highlight the situation we find ourselves as a sport in the UK. Either we atract =#FF0000more revenue through fans, sponsors and media rights, all have a sugar daddy, or=#FF0000 cut a cloth accordingly.
Halifax would seem to be the prime example of what can be done, whilst Leigh are a sad example of what happens when the sugar daddy decides he's had enough....'" remarkable comments yet while we have turned our selves around you'd like to see us replaced by Toronto
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"Leigh are a long way from liquidation. Even if it's as bad as some would like to believe the next step would be administration. Someone will pick the club up for a song and they'll continue, probably in L1, but they will continue.'" No, the players have been told that the club will be liquidated and all contracts will be void. Presumably a measure from Beaumont to try and cover his back and clear debts. He's also no longer paying the players despite saying he would, which is why they could only field 13 on Sunday (and they all played for free).
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| Quote ="snowie"remarkable comments yet while we have turned our selves around you'd like to see us replaced by Toronto'"
"US" as in wakefield I assume?
The real litmus test would have been increasing SL to 14 sides this year, but the loss of £250,000 of the £1,800,000 would cripple clubs like you and Salford because rather than build support, you have your greedy little hands out and will spend on survival (again) rather than growth.
I'd be happy to take a Punt on Toronto or Toulouse instead of Wakefield......if you're such a strong part of the community, you'll survive, but having your hands out for Sky cash and hoping for a "charity built" stadium are just dragging the sport backwards.
I include my club in this as well. London beating Toronto at the weekend will be brilliant as a fan, but a friggin' disaster for SL.
Still, well done Wakefield on surviving again....Leeds being in free fall bailed you and Huddersfield out of a tight spot
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| Quote ="headhunter"No, the players have been told that the club will be liquidated and all contracts will be void. Presumably a measure from Beaumont to try and cover his back and clear debts. He's also no longer paying the players despite saying he would, which is why they could only field 13 on Sunday (and they all played for free).'"
I cannot see any alternative to liquidation and a fresh start in League 1, if anyone feels its worth the effort, that is. There are too many lawsuits by former and current players for any potential investor to take the risk. A new club would be comfortably the biggest in that division and (should they be able to attract players given recent player payment issues!) would be strong favourites to go back up, unless there was some sort of points deduction and financial penalty. From there, it would be mid-table mediocrity in the Championship for the foreseeable future and crowds of 1500. Might be just best to pick Leigh Miners or Leigh East and enjoy local lads playing the amateur game, without enduring all the tinpot running of the 'professional' element of the sport!
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| Quote ="snowie"yep be nice to see a Cambrian side do well
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Aren’t Barrow already in the championship?
That’s super duper league fans for you. No idea about anything outside of the elite environment of Wakefield.
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| Quote ="mapleyther"I cannot see any alternative to liquidation and a fresh start in League 1, if anyone feels its worth the effort, that is. There are too many lawsuits by former and current players for any potential investor to take the risk. A new club would be comfortably the biggest in that division and (should they be able to attract players given recent player payment issues!) would be strong favourites to go back up, unless there was some sort of points deduction and financial penalty. From there, it would be mid-table mediocrity in the Championship for the foreseeable future and crowds of 1500. Might be just best to pick Leigh Miners or Leigh East and enjoy local lads playing the amateur game, without enduring all the tinpot running of the 'professional' element of the sport!
As for Beaumont, what he has done to the club is unforgiveable.'"
I feel for you mate and it’s sickening.
I doubt it’ll come to liquidation. Administration maybe - new owner then gets to pay a bit more to the people they want to deal with again and bin off any debts.
Start next season on minus 6 in the championship and possibly a deduction in central funding.
Keeping my fingers crossed. The owners are only ever custodians of the club but it’s the fans that get the sh17 end of the stick. Plus the crappy comments from know all fans of other clubs. As if you have any idea about the accounts of the club.
You’ll be right I’m sure.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"
"US" as in wakefield I assume?
The real litmus test would have been increasing SL to 14 sides this year, but the loss of £250,000 of the £1,800,000 would cripple clubs like you and Salford because rather than build support, you have your greedy little hands out and will spend on survival (again) rather than growth.
I'd be happy to take a Punt on Toronto or Toulouse instead of Wakefield......if you're such a strong part of the community, you'll survive, but having your hands out for Sky cash and hoping for a "charity built" stadium are just dragging the sport backwards.
I include my club in this as well. London beating Toronto at the weekend will be brilliant as a fan, but a friggin' disaster for SL.
Still, well done Wakefield on surviving again....Leeds being in free fall bailed you and Huddersfield out of a tight spot'" well if survival is finishing 5th for the second time in a row then yes I'll except that now for next season, proof is in the pudding having three players in the dream team means we are going in the right direction,
oh and good luck with game at the weekend I'll be rooting for you but you do realise you will be favourites for the drop next season as you have no pedigree and you'll plummet like a stone unlike us who know how to tread water and have mastered the art of survival
as for talking about grounds please do tell us when you tend to stay put
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| Quote ="headhunter"Leigh are being liquidated and will be lucky to make it to the start of next season, let alone stay up with the inevitable points deduction.'"
Have you got a source for that please?
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| Quote ="headhunter"No, the players have been told that the club will be liquidated and all contracts will be void. Presumably a measure from Beaumont to try and cover his back and clear debts. He's also no longer paying the players despite saying he would, which is why they could only field 13 on Sunday (and they all played for free).'"
You may want to look up the difference between liquidation and administration. As a pointer the 'old' Bradford club that disappeared in 2016 was only liquidated in April of this year. Liquidation is very terminal.
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"You may want to look up the difference between liquidation and administration. As a pointer the 'old' Bradford club that disappeared in 2016 was only liquidated in March of this year. Liquidation is very terminal.'" Yes I know what the difference is, they aren't going into administration, the plan as it stands is for Beaumont to liquidate the club.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Yes I know what the difference is, they aren't going into administration, the plan as it stands is for Beaumont to liquidate the club.'"
is it really ? that's not what DB told me on sunday at leigh miners ground.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Yes I know what the difference is, they aren't going into administration, the plan as it stands is for Beaumont to liquidate the club.'"
I doubt he is but hardly the actions of a man who is supposed to love the Club. If he did that it's extremely unlikely there will ever be another (pro) Leigh club.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Yes I know what the difference is, they aren't going into administration, the plan as it stands is for Beaumont to liquidate the club.'"
As requested earlier, have you got a source for that please?
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| Quote ="Kennedy"is it really ? that's not what DB told me on =#FF0000sunday at leigh miners ground.'"
Do you mean he wasn't suffering at Dewsbury, like the rest of us then? I hope someone was there, in an 'official capacity' to represent our club!
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Is a challenge from Bradford or York likely to materialise? Are they recruiting or going with much the same as this year?'"
We've signed Jake Webster which is an unbelievable signing IMO. Also signed a winger from Hunslet who i can't see playing much and Jon Margrin from Sheffield. Rumoured with Brad Dwyer and Sam Hopkins. Suspect a few championship clubs will also ne waiting to see of Toronto earn promotion and pick up some players they release. We're a very young squad so hopefully can grow as a team. A few more young players breaking through too. York i think will go well too next year.
But we have to beat Workington first which is one hell of a tough task.
On Leigh, i hope they sort it, christ knows we know how it feels. Dire situation at the moment though.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"We've signed Jake Webster which is an unbelievable signing IMO. Also signed a winger from Hunslet who i can't see playing much and Jon Margrin from Sheffield. Rumoured with Brad Dwyer and Sam Hopkins. Suspect a few championship clubs will also ne waiting to see of Toronto earn promotion and pick up some players they release. We're a very young squad so hopefully can grow as a team. A few more young players breaking through too. York i think will go well too next year.
But we have to beat Workington first which is one hell of a tough task.
=#FF0000On Leigh, i hope they sort it, christ knows we know how it feels. Dire situation at the moment though.'"
Truly appreciate the words of support BM. I've been taking a lot of notice of what Bulls fans are saying, as you've all "been there, done that, got the t-shirt etc!"
We have no idea how dire our situation is. Since the owner's multi-page statement, a few months ago, literally nothing has been said by the club. All we've had from them is the odd squad announcement (nearly always wrong) and match report. (containing further 'inaccuracies') Having been part of a team that built up our communications from virtually zero, to something pretty enviable, a few seasons ago, that, frankly, incenses me! If they are hell-bent on making the situation worse, by alienating a reasonable support base, they are certainly going about that, the right way!
Here's hoping we can renew our 'hostilities' with you guys next season. (ON the pitch, that is, and not in the boardroom! )
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