He is/was your number 28. Your 8th or 9th prop? I think fans of both Hull and Rovers overhype specific players before they have really done anything. I’m not trying to be y, so I’ll use a Rovers example - Will Oakes. He’s carved out an entirely respectable career in the Championship and is number 25 at Batley. Side Note - Sammy Kibula is their number 18, Josh Woods is their 7 (see below). Fans go on about the Wigan and Saints model but miss the level of attrition those clubs have. It’s a constant cycle of mostly ‘failure’ in terms of making it in SL - and emotional investment in these kids’ prospects or fear of ‘the one that got away’ potentially makes that harder and maybe slower if it seeps into the club’s thinking. Wigan players with squad numbers above 25 in 2018: Jack Wells, Callum Field, Liam Forsyth, Jack Higginson, Gabriel Hamlin, Joe Bretherton, Caine Barnes, Macauley Davies, Josh Woods, Oliver Partington (the stand out success from the group), Samuel Kibula, James Worthington, Craig Mullen, Liam Paisley Saints 2018 was basically the same thing, but I have gotten as bored of typing names that look like they’ve been randomly generated by Football Manager as you likely are of reading them. Saints only went as high as number 30 though. https://www.totalrl.com/st-helens-revea ... sons-kits/ If somebody wants to check other years to see if this was an outlier… then you’re as sad as me, but I’d be interested. It really isn’t worth FANS worrying about players with these sorts of squad numbers, imo.

He is/was your number 28. Your 8th or 9th prop? I think fans of both Hull and Rovers overhype specific players before they have really done anything. I’m not trying to be y, so I’ll use a Rovers example - Will Oakes. He’s carved out an entirely respectable career in the Championship and is number 25 at Batley. Side Note - Sammy Kibula is their number 18, Josh Woods is their 7 (see below). Fans go on about the Wigan and Saints model but miss the level of attrition those clubs have. It’s a constant cycle of mostly ‘failure’ in terms of making it in SL - and emotional investment in these kids’ prospects or fear of ‘the one that got away’ potentially makes that harder and maybe slower if it seeps into the club’s thinking. Wigan players with squad numbers above 25 in 2018: Jack Wells, Callum Field, Liam Forsyth, Jack Higginson, Gabriel Hamlin, Joe Bretherton, Caine Barnes, Macauley Davies, Josh Woods, Oliver Partington (the stand out success from the group), Samuel Kibula, James Worthington, Craig Mullen, Liam Paisley Saints 2018 was basically the same thing, but I have gotten as bored of typing names that look like they’ve been randomly generated by Football Manager as you likely are of reading them. Saints only went as high as number 30 though. https://www.totalrl.com/st-helens-revea ... sons-kits/ If somebody wants to check other years to see if this was an outlier… then you’re as sad as me, but I’d be interested. It really isn’t worth FANS worrying about players with these sorts of squad numbers, imo.

[quote="Mild Rover":11yxq9av]He is/was your number 28. Your 8th or 9th prop? I think fans of both Hull and Rovers overhype specific players before they have really done anything. I’m not trying to be y, so I’ll use a Rovers example - Will Oakes. He’s carved out an entirely respectable career in the Championship and is number 25 at Batley. Side Note - Sammy Kibula is their number 18, Josh Woods is their 7 (see below). Fans go on about the Wigan and Saints model but miss the level of attrition those clubs have. It’s a constant cycle of mostly ‘failure’ in terms of making it in SL - and emotional investment in these kids’ prospects or fear of ‘the one that got away’ potentially makes that harder and maybe slower if it seeps into the club’s thinking. Wigan players with squad numbers above 25 in 2018: Jack Wells, Callum Field, Liam Forsyth, Jack Higginson, Gabriel Hamlin, Joe Bretherton, Caine Barnes, Macauley Davies, Josh Woods, Oliver Partington (the stand out success from the group), Samuel Kibula, James Worthington, Craig Mullen, Liam Paisley Saints 2018 was basically the same thing, but I have gotten as bored of typing names that look like they’ve been randomly generated by Football Manager as you likely are of reading them. Saints only went as high as number 30 though. https://www.totalrl.com/st-helens-revea ... sons-kits/ If somebody wants to check other years to see if this was an outlier… then you’re as sad as me, but I’d be interested. It really isn’t worth FANS worrying about players with these sorts of squad numbers, imo.[/quote:11yxq9av] Good post, I think the concern is he looked good the start of last year. Although in hindsight this may have been an early indicator of the quality of player we had at the club. I expect him to go on and do ok though, which is a shame but he's not a local lad so there's maybe less desire from him to stick it out and have a go.

[quote="Mild Rover":11yxq9av]He is/was your number 28. Your 8th or 9th prop? I think fans of both Hull and Rovers overhype specific players before they have really done anything. I’m not trying to be y, so I’ll use a Rovers example - Will Oakes. He’s carved out an entirely respectable career in the Championship and is number 25 at Batley. Side Note - Sammy Kibula is their number 18, Josh Woods is their 7 (see below). Fans go on about the Wigan and Saints model but miss the level of attrition those clubs have. It’s a constant cycle of mostly ‘failure’ in terms of making it in SL - and emotional investment in these kids’ prospects or fear of ‘the one that got away’ potentially makes that harder and maybe slower if it seeps into the club’s thinking. Wigan players with squad numbers above 25 in 2018: Jack Wells, Callum Field, Liam Forsyth, Jack Higginson, Gabriel Hamlin, Joe Bretherton, Caine Barnes, Macauley Davies, Josh Woods, Oliver Partington (the stand out success from the group), Samuel Kibula, James Worthington, Craig Mullen, Liam Paisley Saints 2018 was basically the same thing, but I have gotten as bored of typing names that look like they’ve been randomly generated by Football Manager as you likely are of reading them. Saints only went as high as number 30 though. https://www.totalrl.com/st-helens-revea ... sons-kits/ If somebody wants to check other years to see if this was an outlier… then you’re as sad as me, but I’d be interested. It really isn’t worth FANS worrying about players with these sorts of squad numbers, imo.[/quote:11yxq9av] Good post, I think the concern is he looked good the start of last year. Although in hindsight this may have been an early indicator of the quality of player we had at the club. I expect him to go on and do ok though, which is a shame but he's not a local lad so there's maybe less desire from him to stick it out and have a go.