There are a lot of smarter options than announcing you're going to step down at the end of the year before the season even starts!


I would hardly call maintaining a SL place that they already have (and have had for over a decade) a pipe dream.
But, still, you haven't answered the question...


Trying to divert from answering another question, are we?
Nobody knows where they will be playing, and the nearest stadiums are between 6 and 10 miles away from Belle Vue: Fev (6), Dewsbury (6), Batley (icon_cool.gif, Castleford (9), and Barnsley (10).
I'm sure you already knew that, but just didn't want to give away your amazing master plan for Wakefield.


Another diversion from actually replying to the point...
You've gone a bit quiet!


Will they go bust though? They could go bust in the Championship too. They are having money troubles, just like other SL clubs are having, have had, and will look to come out of. They are more likely to find investors if they are still in the SL than they are in the Championship.

Totally depends on how much they're spending maintaining their own ground, what revenue streams they have available at their own ground, what revenue streams they'll have available at this ground, what sort of deal they can strike up, etc.

Starbug, will you learn to quote properly! You're getting harder to reply to!

Corporate will be either non existent or at least much more expensive as to make it non existent

Not sure but didn't Wakefield rent out BV to a footy club as well ?

Like I say, I have no idea how much they will get or what it will cost them. If BV costs an arm and a leg to maintain (rendering a lot of the income they're getting from staying their hard work for little benefit) then it could be possible.

I personally agree, I wouldn't think it would be cheaper. But neither of us know, so can't say for sure it wouldn't be. Especially if someone at the club saying it could be cheaper. You'd think they were more in the know than someone on an internet messageboard with an agenda.

Spot on.

Plus wakey played many U20s / U18s games at BV. They will have to pay to play those games elsewhere.

wellsy13 does not have the foggiest idea about stadium costs.

They will not be including revenue streams , just costs , thats what RL club owners do

So yes it will be cheaper to pay a single rental than pay the wage bill for keeping BV open and safe , but the income they make from BV will not come into their equation , they ' kid ' themselves , trust me , that is the way they think

The ' cost ' to Leigh to play at the LSV is less than the cost of maintaining Hilton Park , but we've lost hundreds of thousands in ' income '

Did it get paid? Did they find a way to get it paid? I'll play your question game here. They had assets to sell to get the payment made. It was always going to get paid one way or another. It had in the past. It did then. And if it happens in the future it probably will then too. Not ideal, but it got done.

How many established clubs in financial trouble have moved towns without it being a last resort?


An accusation of ignorance coming from the business mastermind "let's tell our customers we've no desire to stay in the league after this year. I'm sure they will understand"

Welcome to the world of ' licencing ' this is where we are in the Championships , tell me what we will have to ' sell ' to our ' customers ' after this season when the RFL dont guarantee a SL spot in 2015 ?

Championship Rugby League! not everyone can be in SL, so you need to find another selling point than you might be in SL, you probably wont and if you are it will be for a very short time but you might.

Desperate now, aren't you.




So they're going to Championship 1 now? Yes, that announcement will really go down well with the fans!
You make it seem like it's easy for clubs to get by in the Championship. The reality is, if Wakey go down they'll struggle just as much, if not more, in that league due to not having a ground. They might have managed in 2009 with their own ground, but will struggle to get fans to travel a further distance to watch a lower standard of rugby than they are used to. That's the reality of it.

They will struggle massively if they go down. I doubt they'll even make it to the Championship if they do what you think they should do and announce it as their intention!

The same as you sold the season before and the season before that?
It's easier to sell what you have already been selling to people than it is to sell something of a lesser quality to those you have been selling higher quality stuff to. It's not as if they're telling you they're not aiming for SL. And even if you did, it's not exactly a backwards step if you're not there already.

I doubt Batley's lack of intention to apply for a SL place will bother their fans. I think they're happy to accept that they will probably never be a big enough club to get there and have found their level.

Do you think putting £1000 into wakey as an investment for some unspecified miniscule share of the club is a good financial deal?

On business grounds, given the umpteen unanswered questions re this arrangement, do you think this is a good deal?

well that did not last long did it, on the face of it he has made you look less knowledgable than he is and it looked like you had spit your dummy out and was not going to bother anymore, but some of us know differently

btw he wont fall for it as soon as he reads your post he will realise you have asked him the same question twice but put differently, nothing new there though, a bit like all the rest of those posts on here re Wakey you have put on

Who'd a thought that when i asked about wakey requesting advances from the RFL that days later wakey announce they went to the RFL cap in hand for.....£350,000. Imagine my surprise



Do you think £1000 is a sound financial investment in wakey?

Would £500k be enough to revitalise the club or just to stagger through the season?

stay on topic please

Do you think wakey will raise the £500K in 25 days? Why is the money needed so quickly?

If the money were raised how quickly would Ted R leave?

What would happen to his shares?

How on earth would a new bod be created? Who would decide how this would be done?

Has any of the above been explained to fans as a matter of courtesy?

If the money is not raised and wakey enter administration will there be any point even pretending to apply for SL status?

It is not looking good for wakey!

Quote ="Ceejames"Do you think wakey will raise the £500K in 25 days? Why is the money needed so quickly? If the money were raised how quickly would Ted R leave? What would happen to his shares? How on earth would a new bod be created? Who would decide how this would be done? Has any of the above been explained to fans as a matter of courtesy? '" Well one question at least … Quote When the figure of £500,000 is reached a Shareholders meeting will take place and you will have the opportunity to nominate and vote a new Board to run the club going forward'" www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/2011 ... re-scheme/

Quote ="Ceejames"Do you think wakey will raise the £500K in 25 days? Why is the money needed so quickly? If the money were raised how quickly would Ted R leave? What would happen to his shares? How on earth would a new bod be created? Who would decide how this would be done? Has any of the above been explained to fans as a matter of courtesy? '" Well one question at least … Quote When the figure of £500,000 is reached a Shareholders meeting will take place and you will have the opportunity to nominate and vote a new Board to run the club going forward'" www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/2011 ... re-scheme/

Quote ="tb"Well one question at least … www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/2011 ... re-scheme/'" Thanks. Assuming that all 500 'approx' would wish to vote + current shareholders (less current bod) this will take a fair bit of organising and time. Getting nominations in, getting a brief on all those wishing to stand to the shareholders, allowing time for consideration / giving notice for appropriate meetings will certainly take a while.

Quote ="tb"Well one question at least … www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/2011 ... re-scheme/'" Thanks. Assuming that all 500 'approx' would wish to vote + current shareholders (less current bod) this will take a fair bit of organising and time. Getting nominations in, getting a brief on all those wishing to stand to the shareholders, allowing time for consideration / giving notice for appropriate meetings will certainly take a while.

you dont say

now il get ready for the same questions in 20 different ways

will start to wither and die , which in itself isn't a big problem for anybody except those clubs and the fans of those clubs