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| Quote ="Roverswall"Oh hang on we have another fan of a club that preaches about how great their Youth setup is whilst still looking for ways to 'bend' the rules.
It seems you and Smokey like standards so much you feel the need to have 2 sets.'"
While I don't agree with our club looking to 'bend' the rules, it was you guys who opened the loop hole. The fact it is quite feasible that you'll have more foreigners than Englishmen in your 17 is shocking IMO.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"While I don't agree with our club looking to 'bend' the rules, it was you guys who opened the loop hole. The fact it is quite feasible that you'll have more foreigners than Englishmen in your 17 is shocking IMO.'" So you do have 2 sets of standards then.
Thanks for the confirmation.
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| good thread this...... ![Cool icon_cool.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_cool.gif)
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| I'm enjoying it. ![Cool icon_cool.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_cool.gif)
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| Quote ="MacBlondie"The problem with Hull KR's imports is that with the exception of Willie Mason, they wouldnt get a gig at an NRL team which is why they are in SL. They are all average and ive rather see an average brit given a chance rather than an average aussie.'"
Daniel Fitzhenry had a middling time of it at Rovers and was considered by many to be "average" yet Wests Tigers snapped him up. Garret Crossman had one average year over here and went back to play NRL, so you can't really make that claim.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"good thread this......
'" Indeed it is.
It seems some folks have said somethings that they now rather wish they hadn't ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Indeed it is.
It seems some folks have said somethings that they now rather wish they hadn't
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| Quote ="MacBlondie"The problem with Hull KR's imports is that with the exception of Willie Mason, they wouldnt get a gig at an NRL team which is why they are in SL. They are all average and ive rather see an average brit given a chance rather than an average aussie.'"
Once again , your opinion , you coach which SL club ?
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"While I don't agree with our club looking to 'bend' the rules, it was you guys who opened the loop hole. The fact it is quite feasible that you'll have more foreigners than Englishmen in your 17 is shocking IMO.'"
Go on , who do YOU coach ?
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"While I don't agree with our club looking to 'bend' the rules, it was you guys who opened the loop hole. The fact it is quite feasible that you'll have more foreigners than Englishmen in your 17 is shocking IMO.'"
I don't think "They started it Miss" is much of a defence. ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| The coach of any club will do whatever they can [ including ' bending ' the rules to be as competitive as they can , if anybody thinks they wouldn't , they are stupid
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| Quote ="MacBlondie"The problem with Hull KR's imports is that with the exception of Willie Mason, they wouldnt get a gig at an NRL team which is why they are in SL. They are all average and ive rather see an average brit given a chance rather than an average aussie.'"
you either know very little about RL, have no knowledge of what has happend between SL and NRl in the last 3 seasons or are a wind up merchant. If you think Galea, Clinton, Newton, Webster, Dobson to name a few wouldn't walk straight back into an NRL starting 17 you really have no idea. Two words, Ryan Tandy!
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| Clintons not got it and Galea and Newton, despite being good players are well past their best. Webster couldnt get in the side because some kid was keeping him out but I agree Dobson would walk back into the NRL. As for fisher and lovegrove.. well..
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"ok so how many is too many? '" 6/7 right now, aiming for 5 over the next 1/2 years
Quote And how do you determine "quality"?
Webster was an Int and GF winner when signed, Clinton was an Int and Gf winner when signed yet you seem to have a problem with those two. Dobson had barely broke into the NRL yet was clearly a very good young player who has since proved his talent in SL.
'" you cant, If a club want to sign poor players there is not a lot we can do about it. However the reason quality was mentioned because people argued that lovegrove etc needed to be signed because there wasnt similar british quality out there, there clearly i
Quote Personally I would much rather us sign a 21 year old Australian who goes on to be a quality10 year club player than a 32 year old rep player who has one or at best 2 years left in him.'" this isnt really a gfood argument. Everyone would like to sign a top quality 21 year old who will go on to be quality for years to come, but it doesnt happen very often does it. For all the positives you want to give us about signing a young Mick Dobson it conveniently ignores the Andreas Bauers, Luke Dyers, Rhys Lovegroves etc and all the other Overseas frogs Justin Morgan kissed before he found Prince Michael. Which simply highlights the point, there are young English players who are in the same position as Dobson, but dont get the opportunity, whereas Dobson does, Bauer did, Lovegrove did, Dyer did,
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"Rovers and every other club are judged to the same standards. They are judged on how many quota players they have and how many home grown players they have.'" and rovers have many more overseas players, and much fewer homegrown players than Leeds, and what should be expected of an SL club
Quote You are the one who has been banging on about overseas born players and clubs signing 30 year old Aussie no marks.
You are the one making grandiose and superior claims from your high horse that at Leeds THE ONLY REASON A YOUNG ENGLISH PLAYER WILL NOT PLAY IS IF THERE IS A BETTER YOUNG ENGLISH PLAYER IN HIS POSITION.'" and who do you think isnt getting a game because Leeds have 2 overseas props? as opposed to Hull Kingston Australias 4
Quote Which was almost immediately followed by Leeds announcing the signing of 32 year old (by the start of next season) Cross and now the rumoured possible signing of Hauraki.
I'm starting to think Hetherington watches your posts to see what idiotic claims you are making and then does the opposite just to make you look more of an @rse than you already do.
Smokey...Good name for such a kipper aficianado!
'" you could just admit you were wrong rather than relying on selective quoting and straw man arguments, it doesnt fool anyone ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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91 missed tackles, bloody hell ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_eek.gif)
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91 missed tackles, bloody hell ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_eek.gif)
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"91 missed tackles, bloody hell
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1 negative! How many positives?
In the top 10 metre makers and top ten tacklers, not bad for someone so crap!!
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| I still think the fact that the team that are held up as the pinnacle of RL home grown development won the league with 9 overseas born players in their squad.
Wasn't too long ago FC were regaled for having a team full of english players, yet they are now scouring oz land for a back up half back.
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| Quote ="Dico"Clintons not got it and Galea and Newton, despite being good players are well past their best. Webster couldnt get in the side because some kid was keeping him out but I agree Dobson would walk back into the NRL. As for fisher and lovegrove.. well..'"
Clinton not got it? Made more meters per carry then any other prop in SL bar Morely.
Clinton, Galea, Newton, Webster, Dobson would all find an NRL club fairly easily if they so wish (wouldn't get as much money), just like the likes of Fitzhenry and Tandy have after leaving us. FFS even Byron Ford made his way into the NRL, just messed it up with personal issues.
Lovegrove will play NRL before he retires imo, will turn out a good prop.
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| Quote ="Kingston Rovers"1 negative! How many positives?
In the top 10 metre makers and top ten tacklers, not bad for someone so crap!!'"
He has a thing about missed tackles. Used it to run down Jake Webster until I pointed out that Clinton 'Turnstile' Toopi was worse.
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| I havent looked at the stats, they've just looked ordinary whenever I've seen them, especially Clinton and a few on here would probably go along with that. If these blokes were that great you'd be a hell of a lot better than you are. I could be wrong, the point was merely observational.
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| Quote ="Dico"I havent looked at the stats'"
Enough said. ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote ="Dico"Clintons not got it and Galea and Newton, despite being good players are well past their best. Webster couldnt get in the side because some kid was keeping him out but I agree Dobson would walk back into the NRL. As for fisher and lovegrove.. well..'"
The 29 year old Clint Newton?
The Webster that spent the last half of the season injured?
I think that tells us all we need to know about your insight. ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"and rovers have many more overseas players, and much fewer homegrown players than Leeds, and what should be expected of an SL club'"
And yet are abiding by the RFL's rules...Go figure.
Quote ="SmokeyTA"and who do you think isnt getting a game because Leeds have 2 overseas props? as opposed to Hull Kingston Australias 4'"
You're the one who claims that at Leeds THE ONLY REASON A YOUNG ENGLISH PLAYER WILL NOT PLAY IS IF THERE IS A BETTER YOUNG ENGLISH PLAYER IN HIS POSITION. And then Leeds immediately sign a 32 year old Aussie journeyman and potentially a seventh overseas player. Nobody else is making such fanciful claims, it's only you and then you're made to look a complete @rse by your own club.
Quote ="SmokeyTA"you could just admit you were wrong rather than relying on selective quoting and straw man arguments, it doesnt fool anyone
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I don't have to admit I'm wrong because I'm not. selective quoting, well yes, I select the most appropriate of your quotes to prove your twisting and turning depending upon the topic. Given your many bizarre claims, it's not that hard.
Oh and straw man. Thanks for that, I just got a full house! ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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