But there is still time for you to bring some more overseas players in to take the place of those leaving, I bet a pound to a penny with Newton gone back down under, an overseas player is signed to replace him.

(1) Kris Welham-25
(2) Jordan Cox-3
(3) Liam Watts-16
(4) Louis Sheriffe-2
(5) Scott Taylor-18
(6) Aaron Ollett-0
(7) Rhys Lovegrove-17
(icon_cool.gif Scott Murrell-24
(9) Liam Salter-0
(10) Nick Johnson-0
(11) Sam Latus-11
(12) Rich Beaumont-2

Clinton can be replaced Newton cannot.

I don't mean to be awkward or anything but what does your 'homegrown' mean, because I'm sure Watts, Murrell and Lovegrove were signed in, isn't Watts from Cas, Murrell from Leeds and Lovegrove from Australia.

Although we do still have a spare non-fed spot.





=#FF0000Possibly time for a thread split, maybe to our board...?

but if we assume O'Hara replaces Vella, and we either keep Fisher or replace him Withers, then add in Taulapapa that means 10. Newton leaves perhaps, but we could get Mickey Paea with that non-fed spot, still 10. Or Newton stays (seems increasingly unlikely, admittedly) - potentially 11.

I don't really believe in the quota. I'm happy to exploit the loopholes (as I'm sure some fans who don't like the salary cap have a more relaxed attitude about their club maybe 'stretching' it) - [iup to a point[/i.

I do understand what your saying, I do believe that the RFL have got to be more strict with this overseas rule, like you said, you have 10, we have 5, but apparently ours is full I think, I really dont understand it.

Watts did 3 years at Rovers while eligible for the U-20s.
Murrell did one year, back when one year was enough.
Lovegrove got a dispensation - if we'd signed him at the start of 2007, rather than midway through the season, he wouldn't have required it.

Where a player hails from isn't relevant. I know some Rovers fans are guilty of mixing in club-trained and local-born players, and tbf, we shouldn't try to have it both ways. On the other hand we're still catching up.

It is complicated and inconsistent...

There are two quotas.
The original quota is about your passport. You can have 5 players that do not have an EU or Kolpak/Coutonou passport. Until the collapse of Crusaders there were no exemptions or dispensations to this rule. However lots of overseas players were entitled to EU or Kolpak/Coutounou passports... so the [iseperate[/i non-fed quota was introduced.
You can have 5 players who were hot trained by RFL-affiliated clubs, for 3 years, while eligible for under-20s rugby. Where they come from is not relevant - though it is unlikely you'll get many Aussies coming across at 18, a British player who comes late to the sport (eg via Union) would, in theory, be non-fed. Players here at the start of 2008 are exempt from this rule. As are Crusaders squad now. Plus the RFL retains the right to grant discretionary exemptions - eg Rhys Lovegrove and Aaron Heremaia.

Rovers currently have 9 overseas players.
Quota and non-fed - Clinton, Dobson, Green.
Quota only - Webster, Galea. (Both here at start of 2008, so not non-fed)
non-fed only - none... so two spare spots.
other - Vella, Fisher, Newton (EU passports and here at the start of 200icon_cool.gif, Lovegrove - dispensation.

We've announced two further signings of overseas players - O'Hara, who has a Crusaders exemption and Taulapapa who will take one of the spare non-fed spots but presumably has a Coutonou (Samoan) passport.

Have you signed Lincoln Withers as well.

It hasn't been announced, but it has been a strong rumour.

What has that got to do with succession planning?
It really isnt.

Im not sure why Hull born is so relevant. I wouldnt care if they were playing for Wakefield, Quins, Leeds or HKR as long as they are playing RL.
Well done. Why not do it more.

Well you do. If you didnt you wouldnt have so many.

You can hide behind a big scary smokey monster is out to get me standpoint if you want. It makes you look silly but you can do so if you want. 7 is too many. Especially when they are of the quality of Misi Taulapapa
When HKR have brought their numbers of overseas players down and when NCP is a quality stadium then I have no issue with them.

Gareth Thomas rumoured to make a shock move to pies

He isn't ready and there is nothing else coming through our acadamy, Ben Cockayne was planned for this year but he has put paid to that himself I guess the club should employ mystic meg so we can plan for such things.
So growth hormones and mystic meg it is , sorry our mistake. Have you been laying into Hull FC about how many juniors they are bringing through recently?
Thought not
Hull born isn't relevant I agree but it seems we are doing what you are saying we arn't either way.

We find them when we find them it isn't an exact science no matter what you think.

Really shall I list the english players we have signed form other clubs again?

Not really it's pretty obvious you are one eyed as far as HKR are concerned you can delude yourself all you want but that is your problem. Like I said Ben Cockayne WAS the plan but the player screwed that up not HKR
Deluding yourself again eh Smokey.



BTW captain Quote I have other things I would rather be doing than argue with a one eyed egotistical nut job such as yourself so bye bye.

This as turned into a HKR slagging off thread, what have they done to deserve it, lets start talking about Ian Millward and Cas, because everyone else is, is he the new coach or not.

[url=http://viewtopic.php?f=20&t=506000Rumour on the Solly board that they've signed Michael Jennings??[/url
Started by someone with 2 posts to their name and no official source, mind.

You think it takes some sort of psychic abilities to predict that there was a decent chance Ben Cockayne would again act like a nob and get himself fired? How many warnings did you need? It has nothing to do with Sheriff not being ready. If the HKR team don’t think he is ready then it is poor succession planning not have somebody else in place. It isn’t an excuse to go out and sign a 29 year old lower league overseas player

Yes, it is disappointing, and I think if you look on the Hull FC board then they would say the same thing. But they still have fewer overseas players than HKR.

You arent what either way? You have 10 overseas players in your squad, and 7 (at best, if we are kind and belive everything will go your way) next year. That is too many. It is stopping young british players getting the experience they need. Whether they are from Hull or elsewhere isnt important
Of course you will find them when you find them. What kind of self-fulfilling nonsense are you arguing? You will find them when you find them, but you wont find them until you go out, get them, train them, and give them a chance.
You can do if you want. It wont alter the fact HKR have too many overseas players.
Its funny how many people on here hide behind the "wah wah wah you just hate my club" defence.

Mickey Paea has signed for Hull KR according to their official twitter.

[i@NRL_Bulldogs forward Mickey Paea departs the club at the end of the year to join ESL club Hull KR.[/i

[url=http://www.reds.co.uk/rugby-news/reds-snap-up-wildcats-starlet-gledhillSalford have signed Ben Gledhill from Wakefield on a 3-year deal[/url

not a player, but the 'love rugby league' page on facebook is reporting ian millward will tomorrow be revealed as castlefords new coach.

TBF almost every poster has realised it's a complete lie. Not a chance he would come to SL with the money he's on, let alone Salford.

I heard Leeds wanted him

Smokey will have a field day!

So, atm, Hull KR have:

Fisher, Newton, Lovergrove, Webster, Green, Dobson, Vella, Galea with O'Hara, Paea and Taulapa and possibly Withers coming in?

I think Clinton might still be there as well.

Aye, forgot about him. Hull KR to be the first team to play a full overseas 13?

Taulapa

Webster
Lovegrove
Newton
Withers

Green
Dobson

Clinton
Fisher
O'Hara

Paea
Vella

Galea

Hardly a fair count is it? Using the same method I could claim Hull have 10, and have made room for 1 more by getting Heremaia a dispensation.
O'Hara is almost certainly coming in for Vella. I don't expect us to get Withers and keep Fisher - it'll be one or the other. After the signing of Taulapapa, I'd advocate bringing in a British hooker instead - if I could think of someone decent and available. Strong rumour Newton is leaving too.
Anyway you'll be pleased to know we've filled our quotas, so there'll be no more...

Non-EU/Coutonou: Green, Dobson, Clinton, Webster, Galea
Non-fed trained: Green, Dobson, Clinton, Taulapapa, Paea

Assuming Paea is confirmed - he sounds like the type of player we need.