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| Quote ="vastman"Halifax I'm certain - he'd definitely played first team for Fax before his first stint with us - may be wrong.'"
Correct. Fairly certain on his debut for fax in super league he had a chance to rescue a point with a penalty but missed, opposition = Cas.
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Bill Tupou
Jacob Miller
Mitch Allgood
Mikey Sio
Sam Williams
Tinirau Arona
David Fifita
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By our previous standards thats low.
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| Quote ="St pete"Who has most overseas and who has least ?
I'm some boring nerdy geek on here could put a little table together of who has most overseas, homegrown teams.'"
Widnes can't be far off having the most.
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| Quote ="dickie mint"Widnes can't be far off having the most.'"
Or Catalans and Leigh.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Or Catalans and Leigh.'"
Hull seem to have alot of kiwi type players.
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| Player production is all a very difficult thing , fairly sure Tommy Makinson and Joe Burgess were involved with Leigh at some point , not forgetting that Chris Hill debuted in SL for Leigh , not Warrington
But as we see ATM , with the blubbering from Leeds over Segeyaro , given the supposed top quality production line at Leeds they surely should have a decent young number 9 to bring in , rather than look abroad
Maybe they should have shown more faith in Liam Hood , his form at Leigh last season was excellent , and I expect him to be a stand out for us this year
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Fonua
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Overseas players could be "quota" or "actual" and would it include French ? You would have to ask Vasty if it's in his rule book.
Here goes for 9 from Cas Tigers (actual) :-
Jake Webster
Ben Roberts
Rangi Chase
Grant Millington
Joel Monaghan
Jnr Moors
Gadwin Springer
Jesse Sene-Lefao
Jy Hitchcox'"
So if Solomona had stayed Cas would have had 9 overseas players, according to the rules you can only have 7 non fed trained players, so how are they getting away with it?
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| Quote ="Dave K."So if Solomona had stayed Cas would have had 9 overseas players, according to the rules you can only have 7 non fed trained players, so how are they getting away with it?'"
Webster and chase don't count under residency rules as they've been playing here since before the rule came in. And surely chase won't count since he's represented England....
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| Tigers 7 for 2017 (including Solomona) are:-
Ben Roberts
Grant Millington
Joel Monaghan
Jnr Moors
Jesse Sene-Lefao
Jy Hitchcox
Denny Solomona
With DS gone we have room for one more.
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| Quote ="jools"Webster and chase don't count under residency rules as they've been playing here since before the rule came in. And surely chase won't count since he's represented England....'"
Webster doesn't count in the non-federation trained list but Chase does, as he wasn't already in SL when the rule came in and this list takes no account of nationality.
Cas have:
Millington
Chase
Roberts
Moors
Sene-Lefao
Hitchcox
Monaghan
Before the Solomona issue, Hitchcox was going on loan for the year.
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| Quote ="jools"Webster and chase don't count under residency rules as they've been playing here since before the rule came in. And surely chase won't count since he's represented England....'"
Chase could be playing for the Buckingham Palace 13 whiles singing God save the a Queen with a flag of St George poking out from his jacksie but he still wouldn't be English
He's non fed trained so should count
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| Quote ="dickie mint"Widnes can't be far off having the most.'"
Possibly, I make it 9 overseas born
Hanbury
Thompson
Runciman
Ah Van
Buchanan
Houston
Cahill
Manuokafoa
Heremaia
9 Home Grown
Gilmore
Whitley
Gerrard
Ted Chapelhow
James Chapelhow
Chamberlain
Ince
Walker
Ashall (not yet played)
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Bridge
Mellor
O'Carroll
White
Dean
Dudson
Marsh
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| Bradford Bulls
[iCurrent HG - Regulars[/i
Leon Pryce
Adam O'Brien
Tom Olbison
Alex Mellor
Ethan Ryan
[iCurrent HG - Fringes/1st Team[/i
Joe Lumb
Ross Oakes
James Bentley
Josh Rickett
Liam Kirk
[iOverseas[/i
Dane Chisholm
Kieren Moss
Lachlan Burr
[iOther Players[/i
Oscar Thomas
Omari Caro
Kris Welham
Adam Sidlow
James Clare
Ben Kavanagh
Vila Halafihi
James Mendieka
Johnny Campbell
Joe Keyes
Illies Macani
Jon Magrin
Alex Foster
Jason Walton
Ross Peltier
Phil Joseph
[iOther HG Players[/i
Matt Cook - Castleford
Larne Patrick (Academy) - Castleford
Oliver Roberts - Huddersfield
Jared Simpson (Academy) - Huddersfield
Curtis Naughton - Hull FC
Brett Ferres - Leeds
Craig Kopczak - Salford
Mark Flanagan (Academy) - Salford
Keegan Hirst (Academy) - Wakefield
Ryan Atkins - Warrington
Chris Bridge - Widnes
John Bateman - Wigan
Cain Southernwood - Batley
Tom Lillycrop (Academy) - Batley
Paul Sykes - Dewsbury
Jason Crookes - Dewsbury
Tony Tonks - Dewsbury
Keal Carlile - Featherstone
Richard Moore - Featherstone
Danny Addy - Hull KR
James Donaldson - Hull KR
Ben Hellewell (Academy) - London
Duane Straughier (1st Team/Academy) - Sheffield
Matt James - Sheffield
Elliott Minchella (Academy) - Sheffield
Kieran Hyde (Academy) - Swinton
Lewis Reed (Adacemy) - Hunslet
Josh Casey (Academy) - Keighley
Adam Brook (Academy) - Keighley
Nathan Conroy - Keighley
Emmerson Whittel - Keighley
Ritchie Hawkyard - Keighley
Vinny Finigan - Keighley
Steve Crossley - Toronto
Liam McAvoy (Academy) - Workington
[iNRL Based HG[/i
Elliott Whitehead - Canberra
Joe Wardle - Newcastle
Sam Burgess - South Sydney
Tom Burgess - South Sydney
George Burgess (Academy) - South Sydney
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Bradford Bulls
[iCurrent HG - Regulars[/i
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Adam O'Brien
Tom Olbison
Alex Mellor
Ethan Ryan
[iCurrent HG - Fringes/1st Team[/i
Joe Lumb
Ross Oakes
James Bentley
Josh Rickett
Liam Kirk
[iOverseas[/i
Dane Chisholm
Kieren Moss
Lachlan Burr
[iOther Players[/i
Oscar Thomas
Omari Caro
Kris Welham
Adam Sidlow
James Clare
Ben Kavanagh
Vila Halafihi
James Mendieka
Johnny Campbell
Joe Keyes
Illies Macani
Jon Magrin
Alex Foster
Jason Walton
Ross Peltier
Phil Joseph
[iOther HG Players[/i
Matt Cook - Castleford
Larne Patrick (Academy) - Castleford
Oliver Roberts - Huddersfield
Jared Simpson (Academy) - Huddersfield
Curtis Naughton - Hull FC
Brett Ferres - Leeds
Craig Kopczak - Salford
Mark Flanagan (Academy) - Salford
Keegan Hirst (Academy) - Wakefield
Ryan Atkins - Warrington
Chris Bridge - Widnes
John Bateman - Wigan
Cain Southernwood - Batley
Tom Lillycrop (Academy) - Batley
Paul Sykes - Dewsbury
Jason Crookes - Dewsbury
Tony Tonks - Dewsbury
Keal Carlile - Featherstone
Richard Moore - Featherstone
Danny Addy - Hull KR
James Donaldson - Hull KR
Ben Hellewell (Academy) - London
Duane Straughier (1st Team/Academy) - Sheffield
Matt James - Sheffield
Elliott Minchella (Academy) - Sheffield
Kieran Hyde (Academy) - Swinton
Lewis Reed (Adacemy) - Hunslet
Josh Casey (Academy) - Keighley
Adam Brook (Academy) - Keighley
Nathan Conroy - Keighleyy
Emmerson Whittel - Keighley
Ritchie Hawkyard - Keighley
Vinny Finigan - Keighley
Steve Crossley - Toronto
Liam McAvoy (Academy) - Workington
[iNRL Based HG[/i
Elliott Whitehead - Canberra
Joe Wardle - Newcastle
Sam Burgess - South Sydney
Tom Burgess - South Sydney
George Burgess (Academy) - South Sydney'"
Cain southernwood was definitely Wakefield academy
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| Quote ="vastman"Cain southernwood was definitely Wakefield academy'"
Made his 1st team professional debut for the Bulls though. Had a great season in 2009 with Wakey Academy though!
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Larne Patrick is from the Blackpool area, not Bradford.'"
Born in Blackpool, Patrick joined Huddersfield from Manly based reserve-grade side Narrabeen Sharks in Australia after being on the academy books at Bradford.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Made his 1st team professional debut for the Bulls though. Had a great season in 2009 with Wakey Academy though!'"
I'm fairly sure Cain had signed full time with us but I'm absolutely certain he signed a 3 year full time deal with Bradford. So you can't have him because he was not an academy player at Bradford. Otherwise you can't have Atkins because his full first team debut was for Trinity. I know on wiki it says one but that I believe was a friendly in which case Cain played in those. So let's say it's a minimum of five games to qualify, we are after all looking for successfull academy products - which sadly Cain wasn't for anyone.
If we don't keep it simple it won't work. So it's players who graduated from the U19's to the first team and made there pro debut at the same club. That is for me the true definition of a home produced player.
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| Quote ="vastman"I'm fairly sure Cain had signed full time with us but I'm absolutely certain he signed a 3 year full time deal with Bradford. So you can't have him because he was not an academy player at Bradford. Otherwise you can't have Atkins because his full first team debut was for Trinity. I know on wiki it says one but that I believe was a friendly in which case Cain played in those. So let's say it's a minimum of five games to qualify, we are after all looking for successfull academy products - which sadly Cain wasn't for anyone.
If we don't keep it simple it won't work. So it's players who graduated from the U19's to the first team and made there pro debut at the same club. That is for me the true definition of a home produced player.'"
All I remember to be honest is Cain playing in your academy Grand Final? in 2009 then signed a full time contract with us and made his professional debut with us. Atkins came through our ranks and made his 1st team debut for us in the 2005 Challenge Cup against Featherstone. Only 1st team game he played for us though!
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| London Broncos but probably some overlap with wider south east teams.
Current Squad
Dixon
Lovell
Channing
Walker
Davis
Bustin
Pointer
Pearce-Paul
Bienek
Adebiyi
Elsewhere that I can remember:
McMeekan - Castleford
Egodo
Igbinedion
Krasniqi - Salford
Caton-Brown - Wakefield
Sarginson - Gold Coast
Clubb -Wigan
McCarthy-Scarsbrook - St Helens
Thomas -Bradford
Caro
Keyes
Macani
Magrin
Everett - Toronto
Woodburn-Hall - Halifax
Sharp
Rowe - Batley
Worrincy - Sheffield
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Imari Caro was a London product and played for them and HKR before signing for Bradford'"
no ones tried to claim him as a bradford product have they?
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| Quote ="vastman"I'm fairly sure Cain had signed full time with us but I'm absolutely certain he signed a 3 year full time deal with Bradford. So you can't have him because he was not an academy player at Bradford. Otherwise you can't have Atkins because his full first team debut was for Trinity. I know on wiki it says one but that I believe was a friendly in which case Cain played in those. So let's say it's a minimum of five games to qualify, we are after all looking for successfull academy products - which sadly Cain wasn't for anyone.
If we don't keep it simple it won't work. So it's players who graduated from the U19's to the first team and made there pro debut at the same club. That is for me the true definition of a home produced player.'"
Can't claim chris bridge either! Either that or you can't have Jared Simpson! Can't have it all ways.
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