No, look up the meaning of conspiracy because it's not what you think.



Never said it would be a big drop or that it would really hurt them but NO business should have any drops if it can be helped. If there's genuine reasons why then ok, but getting sloppy and not producing the odd short article every other day isn't a good reason.



1 - No, but you'd be less likely to lose fans to other sites.....and yes whilst you'll say it won't hurt them they shouldn't be content with that.

2 - I visit because as I mentioned in another post they are usually ok, but something in the last 2 weeks is obviously not right at there end.

8 days...still nothing has happened in the world of Rugby League !

Has on Sky Sports, story about Salford turning down HKR's approach for Lui and they're live from the Super League launch right now.

Huddersfield tweeted a list of all the journalists that McGillvary and Stone will be speaking to and Dace Woods for BBC is on there as well as local BBC so no excuse not to have anything in the next day or two.

So starting around midday SL has its media day with players and coaches there and plenty of journalists including BBC ones and a couple of hours later the BBC finally have the first new item on the RL page on their site in over a week and it is.......an article reminding people you can catch the Challemge Cup on BBC tv and online and the dates for each round. And people defend them

The Beeb are only interested in the Rugby Union 6 nations build up for the next couple of weeks, noticed some player interviews have already started on breakfast TV. The 6 nations I think start at the same Superleague weekend, rugby league will be taking a back seat for a while yet.

I do.....and I do so with fact over opinion, with figures rather than "what I think".

Donald Trump, who you obviously admire, calls out news sites that don't cover or report in his desired way "fake news" and this is exactly what you are doing. Brexit was built on a repeated lie and fear of missing out and that is exactly what you and your anti-bbc buddies are doing here.....saying it's not right or it's not fair and that surely TGG should be covered, when the reality is the sport gets as much coverage from ALL media outlets as it deserves. The Nations Capital city has 2 pro/semi-pro sides who between them get 1,000 fans at games each fortnight.......let that FACT sink in....500 fans a week over 30 weeks or so.....that is it....15,000 tickets sold to 30 games in the nations capital and you wonder why the sport gets' short shift from ALL media outlets.

If I wanted to have a pint of real ale, I'd visit a pub, not a chemist! You however, seem fixated on walking into the local branch of Boots and demanding a pint of Tetley's like it's your god given Right



Stop visiting a site that doesn't show what you want rather than continuing to go there expecting something different.

Quote ="Call Me God"I do.....and I do so with fact over opinion, with figures rather than "what I think". Donald Trump, who you obviously admire, calls out news sites that don't cover or report in his desired way "fake news" and this is exactly what you are doing. Brexit was built on a repeated lie and fear of missing out and that is exactly what you and your anti-bbc buddies are doing here.....saying it's not right or it's not fair and that surely TGG should be covered, when the reality is the sport gets as much coverage from ALL media outlets as it deserves. The Nations Capital city has 2 pro/semi-pro sides who between them get 1,000 fans at games each fortnight.......let that FACT sink in....500 fans a week over 30 weeks or so.....that is it....15,000 tickets sold to 30 games in the nations capital and you wonder why the sport gets' short shift from ALL media outlets. If I wanted to have a pint of real ale, I'd visit a pub, not a chemist! You however, seem fixated on walking into the local branch of Boots and demanding a pint of Tetley's like it's your god given Right Stop visiting a site that doesn't show what you want rather than continuing to go there expecting something different.'" Jesus wept you're getting into a right hissy ranting about Donald Trump, Real Ale and Brexit because someone criticised your beloved BBC. The thread isn't about BBC's overall coverage over a long period of time, it's about the last two weeks which has been very non existent by them and people incorrectly pointing the blame at the RFL and the clubs. The excuses defending the BBC dished out for why the RL page on the BBC's site has gone virtually dead in the last two weeks don't stack up I'm afraid. "The clubs and RL don't the get the stories out"...,.clearly they do as they're on Sky Sports and I showed evidence of BBC doing regular articles most days in the previous weeks. "The stories aren't worthwhile or interesting for them to cover" The suggestion about articles on new captain appointments are dismissed on here by a few, strange then that BBC has previously covered new captain appointments Here a link to a BBC article on McGuire being appointment Leeds captain www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/35323440 I can show you the same for when Wilkin at Saints and Monaghan at Wire were made captains. Hock signing for Championship Featherstone.... I can show you when the covered his signing for Championship Leigh Not interest in the Toronto sackings because they're only a Championship team? Can show you articles Baileys drug case, signings of Sims, Westerman and Bailey. The stories that have come out in the last two weeks ARE stories they usually cover but for some reason the page has gone dead in the last fortnight. As usual the blame was put at the people running the sport and clubs and by god I agree that they could do much more in the marketing but this is clearly something wrong with the BBC side of things as much as you want to deny it

Quote ="Call Me God"I do.....and I do so with fact over opinion, with figures rather than "what I think". Donald Trump, who you obviously admire, calls out news sites that don't cover or report in his desired way "fake news" and this is exactly what you are doing. Brexit was built on a repeated lie and fear of missing out and that is exactly what you and your anti-bbc buddies are doing here.....saying it's not right or it's not fair and that surely TGG should be covered, when the reality is the sport gets as much coverage from ALL media outlets as it deserves. The Nations Capital city has 2 pro/semi-pro sides who between them get 1,000 fans at games each fortnight.......let that FACT sink in....500 fans a week over 30 weeks or so.....that is it....15,000 tickets sold to 30 games in the nations capital and you wonder why the sport gets' short shift from ALL media outlets. If I wanted to have a pint of real ale, I'd visit a pub, not a chemist! You however, seem fixated on walking into the local branch of Boots and demanding a pint of Tetley's like it's your god given Right Stop visiting a site that doesn't show what you want rather than continuing to go there expecting something different.'" Jesus wept you're getting into a right hissy ranting about Donald Trump, Real Ale and Brexit because someone criticised your beloved BBC. The thread isn't about BBC's overall coverage over a long period of time, it's about the last two weeks which has been very non existent by them and people incorrectly pointing the blame at the RFL and the clubs. The excuses defending the BBC dished out for why the RL page on the BBC's site has gone virtually dead in the last two weeks don't stack up I'm afraid. "The clubs and RL don't the get the stories out"...,.clearly they do as they're on Sky Sports and I showed evidence of BBC doing regular articles most days in the previous weeks. "The stories aren't worthwhile or interesting for them to cover" The suggestion about articles on new captain appointments are dismissed on here by a few, strange then that BBC has previously covered new captain appointments Here a link to a BBC article on McGuire being appointment Leeds captain www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/35323440 I can show you the same for when Wilkin at Saints and Monaghan at Wire were made captains. Hock signing for Championship Featherstone.... I can show you when the covered his signing for Championship Leigh Not interest in the Toronto sackings because they're only a Championship team? Can show you articles Baileys drug case, signings of Sims, Westerman and Bailey. The stories that have come out in the last two weeks ARE stories they usually cover but for some reason the page has gone dead in the last fortnight. As usual the blame was put at the people running the sport and clubs and by god I agree that they could do much more in the marketing but this is clearly something wrong with the BBC side of things as much as you want to deny it

Well, they will because people searching for stories, mentions of players, names, teams, information about any aspect of rugby league will not find an article on the BBC website but instead head to other websites. More relevant and interesting content you have, the more traffic you get.

And I would also point out that the more regular you post content and the better treatment you give a section/website, the more likely people are to remember it and return. People don't see BBC as the number one website for rugby league news because THEY don't treat it as the number one website for rugby league. Forget other sports and comparisons. They should be doing the best they can to be the best for each sport and supplying news to attract readers, diehard or otherwise.

If you don't market a product it doesn't sell. If you don't cover news of a sport, you won't get traffic, visits, and people reading other content. They should be looking to take market share from the likes of Sky Sports and increasing the value of their asset. Instead, it's bordering on incompetence. The fact that in their 'All teams' list they only show Super League says it all.

Probably explains why they aren't ranked #1 in the UK on search engines for rugby league and Sky are.

This is spot on. The daft thing from their POV is that they put up the previously mentioned article yesterday about watching the Challenge Cup on BBC TV and online and mentioned the fixture they'll be showing online TOMORROW in the Challemge Cup. The target audience for watching that game though haven't been given any reason lately to keep visiting the site that's showing it. That's just shoddy plain and simple.

Correct....they aren't, but they'll take solace in their ranking as the #1 ranked news media website in the UK


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That is your opinion, but the reality is that those that are mad about RL will have already known it's on.
There's Zero chance of a "casual viewer" tuning into the stream and then becoming a season ticket holder at Leeds because of that they saw on the stream, nut there lies the crux of the issue with any RL zealots. You simply believe that watching one game will convert people into fans and therefore "demand" that the BBC do everything in their power to promote the sport......



As for the real ale and trump comments, they weren't a hissy fit at all, but simply an observation on how you a/ decry the lack of news that you want in the way Trump does and b/ how you visit a site that isn't the #1 site for RL news expecting it to give you loads of RL news.....

The blame lies equally between the clubs the RFL and the BBC.
The clubs and the RFL should have made the BBC fully aware on several occasions when the season started and the BBC should have been aware of when the season started.

And that's your opinion and a pretty silly one too. For someone who constantly criticised the sport for not doing enough in marketing and promoting itself you're now hypocritically taking the lazy approach of "I'm sure everyone who'd watch it will already know".




i haven't said anything like what you've just put. I've not said casual viewers will watch it and become hooked on RL. I actually made a point about their target audience which will be current RL fans.



I don't expect loads but when there's a very irregular pattern as is the case in the last two weeks I'll call it for what it is instead of being in denial like yourself.

The fact is they were covering RL on their site in a decent enough way for the first week and a half of January with a dozen or so stories.....then they had just 1 in two weeks. That's a very irregular pattern, if the stories weren't out there then fair enough but they were as shown by Sky Sports and I showed that they covered these stories previously. They are now getting back to their usual pattern with two stories in the last two days (which aren't any bigger than the ones they missed for two weeks).

Instead of going off on tangents with your preconceived stereotypes.....actually discuss this actual issue. The two weeks their RL page went dead, because it doesn't even go with their usual traffic for that page which is usually better. You don't go from an article daily to just 1 in two weeks and not think it's an issue on their end of things..

The BBC know when the season is starting. Some of those early January articles I mentioned including the line that the season starts in Febuary and they had an article when the fixtures for the new season were announced. They had a few of their media guys up at the media launch who will have know and made plans to be there on that date for a while.

currently the BBC RL page is awash with news....or is it still "not enough"?

It's not "awash" but it is back to it usual number of articles which is fine....which again begs the question why did it go awol for 2 weeks? The stories were there as the Sky Sports website proves.

phew.....thank God for that

I've never said the usual number of articles isn't ok, the issue is about this two weeks. Stop deflecting away from the issue with tangents of Donald Trump, Zealots, Real Ale, Pornhub and Brexit because it's easily seethrough of someone digging a hole because he can't accept the side he so desperately backed is at fault this time and deserves criticism.

You asked me a couple of questions, now it's my turn

- Why did the BBC website go pretty much dead for two weeks on RL news. (I'll advise you to remember the other articles they've posted in the past before answering badly)

Thanks for the advice


To answer your question, I have no idea why the BBC seemed to stop posting RL articles for about 15 days in January.....but that is not the point. The point was:
POST NUMBER 1 IN THIS THREAD

ON THE SAME OPENING PAGE


To recap. The opening poster claims that the BBC website "pathetic" whilst your first foray into the thread was to claim that "it is in their interests to attract as many visitors to their site" as a reverse way of saying they aren't very good at their job.
All I have done is say that their website is neither pathetic nor badly run, but is in fact the #1 UK based News Media Website by a long stretch.

My comments about fake news, Donald trump and real ale not being sold in a chemist were all posted purely because you continued to decry the site, suspecting that "something was up" and you therefore were returning there regularly even though their content was old and stale.....like trying to order that pint of tetleys in superdrug......

....but again, the BBC website is not the place I go to for RL news as it is not the best place to find it. Sky and a series of RL related sites are far better for finding out what's going on and whilst I do visit the BBC site for UK news (because it's the #1 ranked news media site that is neither pathetic nor badly run), I hardly ever look at sports news there but rather go to relevant specialist sites.

Lets face it.... no broadcaster gives a rats ass about RL, RL is a last ditch programme filler.

This sportt needs some serious advertising and major sponsership

1. I disagree. SKY pay a decent amount for the game, without which the game would not operate as a fully professional sport in the UK. SKY do, I agree, treat us as a filler and with disdain, but that is more to do with us greedily accepting their money and not standing up to them when they demand things like "Thursday" night games, or moving fixture dates and times. We also get very little promotional activity from them. The Warriors get free advertising as part of the NZ/NRL section of the TV deal...thay advertise upcoming games with ticket prices....we should be allowed the same sort of thing.
2. The sport will never attract top line sponsors or advertisers until we raise the audience level and the audience demographic. Pay Day loans, Bookies, Bingo, Ambulance chasers and Mushy Peas only goes towards confirming the public misconception that we are a northern pastime and not a national or International sport of any value. Attracting that audience is the responsibility of the Clubs and the RFL.....and to do this they need to employ people from outside the sport.

That's all you needed to say instead of acting like you knew whilst attacking others.




That's not all you've done though is it. You've attacked posters calling them zealots and comparing them to Donald Trump and basically slagging them off because they criticise an issue you've just readily admitted you can't explain the actions of.

As pointed out previously with the comparison with Leeds having the highest attendance in SL....being number 1 does not mean they're perfect or can't improve themselves.

It's a forum. Different views and banter are to be expected....if you can't handle the banter then don't get involved, but don't mistake banter for an attack.



No, I've had a pop at people and compared them to DT and accused them of zealotry based on the opening posts of both the owner of the thread and yourself and others that are all to ready to blame the BBC for the woes of the game. It is a fact that not one fan has been lost to the game because the BBC RL site seemed to take a 2 week break, but apparently this is worthy of calling the site "pathetic" and "badly run" (sic)


Leeds are #1 RL side in the country and yes they strive to be better at what they do as this will lead to ore fiscal security, but comparing them to the #1 UK based Media Website is trite at best. The only people looking for RL news on the BBC website will be ......wait for it........drum roll.......RUGBY LEAGUE FANS! I'd hazard a guess that the traffic on the RL portion of the site was actually UP over the last few weeks with the usual team of Zealots visiting hourly before getting all uppity at the perceived slight to TGG.

The point of this thread, as was stated in the opening post, is that in the opinion of the OP as well as others, the BBC website is pathetic. It is plainly not pathetic as it is the #1 ranked UK MEDIA NEWS WEBSITE.

BTW. As you've asked, then so will I. Why do you think there was a hiatus in posting news stories on the RL section of the #1 ranked UK MEDIA NEWS WEBSITE.

it clearly wasn't banter, you just couldn't handle people criticising the BBC.




We haven't though have we, we've criticised them for the TWO WEEKS in question, NOT the woes of the game in general so stop making nonsense up.



I've answered before and will again, through sheer laziness and sloppiness on BBC's part.

Now can you FINALLY come up with an answer or just attack those who can whilst you can't?

It clearly was banter, but maybe too subtle for your delicate little self, as you think me referring to you as a Zealot or as someone why decries news that isn't to their desire or liking as "fake" like the POTUS is an attack of sorts. An attack wouldn't be using such kind words.



Nope...I think you'll find that the OP has form in terms of sweeping criticism of Auntie and her coverage of RL and to call a website "pathetic" is pretty damning. You accusations of it being run sloppily and lazily are a slight on the website as well as is your fixation with comparing Leeds RLFC to the BBC website, whilst dismissing F1 and RL as a comparison because the F1 season is in the middle of its off season whilst the RL has a week left....bemoaning the BBC whilst applauding SKY sports for advertising the game they have sole live TV rights for and my personal favourite.....

...yet you claim that you're not claiming a conspiracy.


Laziness and sloppiness point to the site being badly run....let me check....Nope, it is this the #1 RANKED UK NEWS MEDIA WEBSITE. Not bad for a site that is run in a lazy and sloppy manner....


Again with the "attack" word. You really are similar to DT in that you believe that repeating your opinion will some how make it fact

. The only FACT that matters is that the BBC website is not a good place to go for RL news, so most people don't go there. This doesn't seem to worry the BBC site managers or otherwise they would offer more RL......maybe you should write to them and complain about this perceived slight on the game.....or you could just go somewhere else for your fix of RL news.

As for the answer, I gave it to you. I said I don't know, which is a honest assessment unlike yourself who claims you know why, it's because their lazy, shoddy and that somethings gone iffy at their end which is nothing other than your opinion.

See...I don't know the answer so I didn't make one up.....you on the other hand have!

It wasn't you just can't handle criticism of the BBC and are now backtracking that it was banter.




So our criticisms are "damning" and a "slight" but yours are "banter"....who are you trying to kid.



I took your word that there wasn't any news on the BBC F1 page.....I've had a look and their was about 10 articles in the time that RL had just 1.....so stop using as a companion because you're looking more and more stupid for it.



This the thing though as I've mentioned before, they are actually ok......for two weeks they weren't but you repeatedly carrying on as if people are talking about their week in week out year in year out coverage.



I don't "claim to know why" I just say what's my honest assessment and for some reason you can't handle it so have been so defensive about the BBC. Never said my claims of the BBC being lazy and shoddy in those TWO WEEKS were anything other than my opinion. Apparently I can't have one whilst you can.