I rate Williams, he has huge potential, and you can't blame the selectors for giving him a chance - but he was the reason England lost. Widdop was on his own at halfback and not only did Williams do nothing, he was actually a liability, even to the end.

In the second half, Luke cam eon and gave a MoM performance of intelligence and control and kicked us to death.

Williams in contrast today kicked appallingly, and was slow, ponderous, clumsy and often caught in possession. The result was that we almost never got a repeat set, and so never got a decent spell on attack, but just routinely gave the ball back.

It isn't Williams' fault i suppose that he had such a mare, and it wasn't predictable, but Gale must already be polishing his boots for the decider, Williams won't be anywhere near the squad.

No structure, no organisation, no game plan other than trucking it up the middle. That only works if the opposition keep giving you good possession and good field position. When they don't, they can just stack in and smother the ball.

Both halves were pretty mediocre, didn't appear capable of grabbing hold of the game when it was obvious route one wasn't working. Apart from driving the ball out from kicks, 1-5 on the team sheet may as well have been sat in the stands for all the decent ball they got.

He will pick Matty Smith. Nailed on

Gale for Williams, Bateman for Whitehead, anybody who has ever played centre before ever for Bateman.

Williams is being caught with ball in hand too many time. He shouldn't of been picked for this series, he's had one good season for Wigan and all of a sudden England's hopes are seeming to be thrust upon his shoulders. He is going to be a good player, I just hope this series doesn't dent his confidence. I personally would have assessed Williams after next season

Having watched Williams all year, that type of performance isn't untypical. Brilliant one week, anonymous the next. He'll learn with experience, but no way should he be scapegoated as the reason we lost that test. Play him on his home ground next week and he'll more than likely rip it up.

We're crying out for some halfbacks with wide ranging passing games, who can create space. Sinfield wasn't perfect but he at least has that ability, Tomkins does, as well. Widdop has proven himself to be unbelievably average, yet again, and having been brought up in the Aussie system you'd assume he'd at least be able to deliver an accurate pass to both sides.
Williams is 21 years old, he'll make mistakes, we have to be patient, but he'll know that a few more performances like he put in today will soon see him out of the side.

Overall the defense was fantastic, and there was nothing between the sides, but England's pivots were poor, and the forwards seemed to lack energy.
The most frustrating thing for me though was our persistence of going to the left in attack. This goes back to my first point about halfbacks not being able to pass accurately in both directions. We have our most attacking back rower, best centre, and fastest winger on the right, yet we continuously don't try to put them in space.

Gale has being a top performer for us week in week out and deserves a shot. Will banana agree i think not.
Williams will be selected next week regardless of that shower of **** he served up today (not the only 1 i may add) as he plays for Wigan.
Dare i say if Banana was not in charge i think we would have seen Brough and Gale as England halves and if that was the case i think we would be 2-0 up.

Embarrassing for Rugby League, Mcbananas team selection has been consistantly poor for all his time as England coach. Williams, Bateman, Whitehead no where near international quality yet! clueless

Gale should have been first choice at the start of the series, but I can't see him making any big changes for the last game, I'd consider bringing Westwood into the back row to add the bit of punch that Whitehead and Farrell don't provide.

Farrell is fairly solid in defence but that's not enough for an international player. Is James lowes the attacking coach?

Agree also Jerry and Cudjoe for Hudds should also have being selected ahead of Burgess and Bateman but none of said players play for Wigan Leeds or in the NRL, Mcbanana hasn't got a clue. I for one really hope he gets the chop after this series is over.

Brough and Gale would have struggled just as much behind that pack today, nowhere near as dominant as last week.

Plus, Brough is Scottish. And a bottler.

What an appalling game of "international" rugby league. You'd think after being pushed up from the graveyard television slot on Sunday evening to main coverage on Saturday afternoon there would be a little bit of quality on show. Sadly, one could mistake today's game as an RU match.

An unpopular suggestion but I'd keep the halfbacks the same. Last week I thought Williams did well, think he deserves a chance to make up for his game today.

Bateman isn't a centre.

It was just awful tactics. The NZ pack weren't going to roll over as easily as last week yet we think we have and amazing steamrolling pack as usual when we have class like Watkins and Hall out wide.

He's not. He's a decent second row. It's not his fault that he's not a centre, it's McNamara's fault for picking him there. We need to put a centre in the centre at international level. Or we effectively surrender any chance of attacking on one entire flank.

Im not saying they wouldn't but they both offer abit of flair and i think one if not both of them would have produced something to get us over the line today.
Also Brough is only Scottish because of McNamara if he wasn't the coach, on form over the last few years Brough would certainly be English.

Watkins looked dangerous when he had the ball, he just didn't have the ball enough. Graham and Tom Burgess were pretty good too, and S'OL played well enough.

Burgess has had a superb season as well, though, and he's better under the high ball than McGilvery, so I don't have a problem with Burgess being picked.
Cudjoe hasn't had a great season from what I've seen, but I actually think Shenton deserved, and should've been picked at centre this series.

With a few minutes to go Chris Hill and Roby were the top 2 tacklers on the pitch despite only playing about 40-45 mins each. Surely some of the back rowers who played 65-70 mins should have been picking up some of that slack. It isn't exactly like they were offering anything useful in attack. Also think it was stupid to drag Roby off in a close game with 12 mins to go. Our halves were appalling so our best chance of somebody producing some magic was surely Roby?

I also agree Burgess has being good all year but he is being played on the wrong side playing him out of position on the right wing when he plays left wing, JM and LC play right side for club and both must have had pretty good seasons with Jerry being top of try charts,Leroy must have had a hand in alot of those ( maybe not i don't know... queue the Hudds fan).
Shenton seemed to be carrying injury's towards back end dislocated shoulder twice last year i think so may have decided against the call to get right for pre season (also dont know).

To be fair, with those half backs and that structure we've effectively surrendered the chance of attacking on either flank.

Through 160 minutes, I'm struggling to remember either centre getting good ball in space.

Very poor performance with the ball. Absolutely no imagination to our play at all. The back row were terrible they didn't create space for the third pivot or centres barely at all, all game.

We were incredibly boring to watch.

Widdop has plenty of energy, unfortunately it's about the same as a headless chicken