Of course they do that's why \newton got banned for so long. Oh hang on that's because it happened to a Saints player.

Just seen it on Super League show. Was a very cheap shot, but I don't think the intent was to deliberately hurt him. Think he'll get away with a one/two match ban to be honest.

Stupid niggly cheap shot and will probably get a ban.

But if nothing had happened to the wakey player, would anyone really care? It was hardly even a punch and lots of proper punches have been thrown this season without action.

Hope the injury isn't as bad as reports on here, get well soon.

KC should know better, especially given the players already on the sidelines at the moment.

Anyone who knows even the slightest little bit about boxing should know that those are the hardest type of punches to take, short sharp jabs and short arm check hooks, it's because of the speed they can be delivered thus taking the recipient by surprise.

That will have been the deciding factor in this if Stosic has indeed sustained bad injuries. He wasn't expecting it at all so his face will have been relaxed. If you're stood toe to toe with someone in a fight you are expecting to take punches and will absorb them better.

I would much prefer someone to come windmilling at me than get in close and deliver a shot like that.

Someone I know was on the recieving end of a cowardly attack on a football field where someone came from behind and cracked him and made a real mess of his face. He wasn't a hard lad and it wasn't the best of shots by all accounts, but because the lad didn't see it coming it caused all sorts of damage and a fair amount of time in hospital.

Cheap shots like the one from KC should be dealt with severely IMO and even more harshly if a serious injury has occured.

@ the saints fans trying to defend it. Disgusting cheap shot from the fat elf.

pull your head out of your ass!

Cunningham has never Been dirty! He is tough and plays hard but never dirty.

Not sure why he did that as it's not like him.

That old chestnut

If they do take into account how bad the injury is and how long the player is out for, will the wildcats provide medical records to red hall or will they just take the wildcats fans word on it?

Er...What about Longy's glass jaw? The girl should go play foozeball.

He was on friday Pete.

Do we take your word for it or should you supply evidence to the RFL

Roby is out, possibly going to miss the semi.. 2 match ban for KC then?

Stosic must have a face made of glass cos even Bruce Lee couldnt do that much damage with the 3 inch punch.

hope he's banned for the semi final

Not true.

What was the difference between Terry Newtons intentional shot on Long and Howell's intentional shot on Tomkins?

Nothing execpt that Tomkins was not injured.

Dale Holdstock was banned for 4mths by the RFL when breaking Doncasters Matthew Walker's Jaw and he has later paid £11,000 out of court.

I emailed the RFL about this and their response was basically that the ban reflected the injury sustained by the player. I also asked why Walkers brother was not banned for a long spell for running across the pitch to get involved in the fight and was told that the fact it was family was the reason he only got a small ban and fine.

Now I dont know if Stosic is thinking of taking KC to court for this incident but if the RFL want to show any consistency why would anyone be surprised to see another 4mth ban imposed on Kieron? Well I actually know why we'd ALL be surprised...KC is a St Helens player and an icon of the game, Dale Holdstock was an NL1 average back row forward known to very few outside of the division.

Turry's was worse than anything I've seen on a rugby field because of how pre-meditated it was. Sure I've seen some bad-uns for example Sonny Nickle and Vila Matautia two that spring to mind, but Newton had hurting St Helens players on his mind throughout that game and didn't stop until he had. I've never seen that mindset before or since that day.

Cunningham's on Friday was borderline worthy of a penalty, it was petulant and born of frustration at the continued messing about at the play the ball. There was zero intent to harm and there was absolutely no venom in it either. I'd bet we've seen hundreds of similar incidents at play the balls this season, none of which have led to bans.

As has been mentioned had Stosic not been hurt no one would be talking about this at all. He was injured by freakish bad luck, not by any malicous intent on Cunningham's part.

No, he was injured by Cunningham's fist.

And you don't throw a punch without malicious intent. If he had given him a lovely piece of cake, fair enough - but he didn't.

You are looking at it too literally. Cunningham's mindset was more "Oh get off FFS!" than, "I'm going to rearrange your face". Yes there was a 2 inch prod but if we are going to start banning players for that there aren't going to be many players left on the field.

I'm approaching it from the viewpoint that Cunningham punched someone. Your assertion that no malicious intent lay behind the action is just stupid.

I bear my family no malicious intent, so I make sure to punch them in the face every chance I get. Oh no, wait - I don't, because that would be absurd.

Still being pedantic I see. Cunningham didn't intend to hurt Stosic, how much clearer can it be?

And lets see how serious the injuries are before we have Cunningham before the Hague on a War Crimes tribunal, someone on the Wakey board just said that "Stosic fine to play Sunday is what I have heard".

There's nothing pedantic about pointing out that punching a man is not compatible with a "lack of malice". If it were a clumsy challenge, fair enough - but you don't accidentally throw a punch.



Oh well, we'd better rewrite all the rules of the game (and the laws of the land). I guess you'll be advocating that officials ignore deliberate high tackles provided the recipient is injured less than some benchmark.

Cunningham punched the man. It was deliberate. It's against the rules.

You know exactly what he was thinking? Give over. Here's a question - if he didn't intend to hurt Stosic, why did he land a punch on his noggin? Odd behaviour for a pacifist.

What planet are you inhabiting exactly? Having seen it again a few times, KC clearly and intentionally aims a punch at his face. It wasn't an attempt to get him off, it wasn't a shove, it was a short punch that landed with considerable force. In fact if you watch it you can see KC's body shape to throw the punch - he puts considerable effort into it.

As I said before, KC can probably bench press 150kg. A short, intentioned punch will displace a helluva lot of power wherever it lands.

Why waste your time trying to defend the indefensible? I admire KC, and always have, but in this case it was a cheap and nasty attack which appears to have caused severe damage and the punishment should reflect that.

You are having a laugh Sonny Nickle went out with the intention of inflicting a career ending injury every game he played the hit on Mears was malicious - equally as bad if not worse than Newton's hit on Long

The Chair Maker reckons Stosic had already fractured his eye socket before Cunningham hit him and didn't even know it.

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Newton got banned for also taking gilmours head off.

Newton has got very bad record.