I would expect on to go in but I just don't think we are ready for it, the 3 years would hopefully give us some time to build a team and not have to go all out but I can't see us if we got in moving from anywhere but the foot of the table in those 3 years!

=#8040FFThere's a Yorkshire "bias" because the Yorkshire clubs are, y'know better on the whole



Cas: Decent crowds, one of the best youth developments around, playoff SL team, new stadium on the way

And you want them to be replaced by:

Leigh: No fans, worst team I've ever seen in SL, a chairman who wouldn't be out of place in football with how often he sulks over things, under 40% capacity for games

Good idea



One in, one out Widnes for Wakey.

I think you knew what he meant?

There are far more yorkshire teams than lancashire ones, Wakey and cas are probably most at risk due to location (which seems to be important in the RFL's eyes), crowds arn't great and stadia. Cas would just shade it for me as their youth development seems a little better.

If it was up to me, Barrow in simply to bring Cumbria back into the equation with either cas or wakey out.

Having ours ready went against us last time round as 'we had not yet played in the stadium'



Alan rowley who I assume you are referring to is Cheif Exec and he has kept his head down since the last franchise.

It isn't possible to build a Super League team in the Championship. All you can do is build the framework (stadium, youth set-up, finances) then when the franchises are awarded start to shop round for SL-standard players to bolster what you've got. This is why Widnes have not gone hell for leather chasing the Championship title but have invested in their Academy - once the qualifying box has been ticked (which Widnes did last year by winning the NR cup) the playing strength is only a minor factor in the bid.

Be honest, you're worried about Huddersfields guaranteed 4 points a season aren't you?!

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What I meant was if we got in the 3 years grace from relegation would give us time to build steadily rather than going all out

I'd have to say, I'd miss Castleford, but I wouldn't miss Wakey, your grounds pathetic, and it's your fault this Cllr Box e's happened, you didn't get your money in time, and you've missed your chance. For me, Salford, Quins and Wakey out, Toulouse, 'Fax and Widnes in. Then, also, we have a better Derby System (Toulouse Catalans, Fax Huddersfield, Widnes Warrington, Bradford Leeds, St Helens Wigan) but yes, Crusaders vs Castleford doesn't sound exciting. But what I'd do, is have them play eachother three times a season, Home Away and at the Magic Weekend. Simple, and Bye Bye Wakey

I mean in relation Cas and possibly Wakey, not Leigh in itself.

Which is why a Giants fan may have unexplainable underlying feelings about rather having Trinity in SL with a guaranteed 4 points rather than Cas who manage to beat them occasionally.

Bless you Conor.

Cas Relegated twice...Wakey Academy champions ???

I'll let you off then

=#8000FFIn the last 2 years? and how many of these academy champions have played this year?

a) He said performances, which currently we've finished in the play-offs the same as Wakey and we're on course to finish in them again this season.

and b) He said bringing youth THROUGH.

Cas have had eleven homegrown players played this season. How many have Wakey brought through? As people have said, it'll be how many are regulars/play in the first team squad.

How many "this year"? What does it matter? They'll come through when there ready. No you haven't been relegated in the last two years. Who has?

11 in the 1st team squad. As to how many play regular, surely that's down to injuries / form of the established players etc.

But how many have played a game?

At the moment I think only Widnes are likely to come in.

the economic climate means the RFL won't take risks on Toulouse, Barrow etc this time I reckon.

for who should drop out, its definitely between Wakefield, Salford and Cas...and to be honest i'd have to say Wakefield would be my choice, as this new ground is no nearer than it was 10 years ago, and Belle Vue is by far the worst ground in the league.

3 of the 6 who signed pro contracts have played first team footie this season. The others are not quite physically ready to make the step up just yet although i imagine they'll figure in or one or two games remaining.

The U20's are doing very well and i'm imagine there will be a few signed up again although i doubt they'll been seen for a couple of seasons until their bodies are able to cope with the intensity of the SL.

Hate the whole Franchising thing. It just makes a crappy cartel of meaningless games for many teams. Get rid, the fans love a good promotion and relegation scrap. Franchising just keeps some poor teams that contribute little to the game in the Top Boys class. Why shouldn't Barrow, Sheffield Toulouse, Featherstone Halifax etc be allowed their chance in the top flight without having to jump through artificial hoops? Half the teams in the Super League barely meet the criteria the governing body has set for Stadia. Blackpool getting into the Premiership has created a buzz within Football like I haven't heard for years. Franchising is just a sick joke that keeps the lid on the box shut tight for aspiring Championship teams. Barrow and Toulouse would be an assett to SL. Fax Fev and Sheffield would add at least as much to SL as 3 or 4 current teams do.

Why not get rid of Quins and Wakefield and bring in Widnes and Toulouse mainly because Wakefield and Castleford are next to each other and Quins haven’t work since super league started and crowds are still bad even when they done well.

What we really need is another team in SL from a medium sized town between Manchester and Liverpool. That would be excellent for the development of the game. Maybe Widnes, Saints, Wire, Wigan and Salford could breakaway and form their own governing body called The NorthWest Union. Who knows one day there could be fully pro clubs in Leigh, Runcorn, Blackburn, Burnley all attracting 10k crowds for their new comp. Brilliant.