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| Quote ="j.c"but the rfl want to develope SLE.
they want TO in there.
in a few years they'll be looking at SWS's,earlier this year paris were mentioned again.
you can only have half a dozen clubs from the north in a genuine european league,the rest are just making up the numbers until these clubs and others are ready to step up.
from the outside looking in,thats how i see it.'"
Yes that is what the RL want, but other than Catalans the Crusaders and to an extent Harlequins are hardly blueprints for advocating letting more expansion teams in at the expense of heartlands clubs.
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| Quote ="littlerich"Of course. Anyhoo, i'm off to get a cheese sandwich. I cut a nice wedge of it from the Moon today.'"
I'm apprehensive. I think whilst it may affect it slightly, I can't see Sky pulling the plug completely.
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| Quote ="Fully"Do you really, honestly, believe that?'"
Well the RFL certainly do, one of the RFL (was rumoured) said as much last week
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| Quote ="j.c"but the rfl want to develope SLE.
they want TO in there.
in a few years they'll be looking at SWS's,earlier this year paris were mentioned again.
you can only have half a dozen clubs from the north in a genuine european league,the rest are just making up the numbers until these clubs and others are ready to step up.
from the outside looking in,thats how i see it.'"
Kinda makes you glad not to be in it , doesn't it ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Fully"I'm apprehensive. I think whilst it may affect it slightly, I can't see Sky pulling the plug completely.'"
The RL subscriptions for Sky dont rest on having a welsh team in SL, and anyone who says they do please show me some evidence.
If Sky are so keen to dictate such clubs stay in, then they should increase the TV moneys so that we can move to a 15 team league with everyone still getting the same share of the pot
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| Quote ="littlerich".........making sure that their exorbitant fees are covered, leaving in fact - naff all for the creditors.'"
These are the administrators based not to far away from Red Hall that you are referring to. The RFL have been involved all along and knew on October the 20th that a new company Welsh Crusaders Ltd had already been set up. They already have the statements they will make next week under lock and key in Nigel Woods fridge
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| Quote ="DemonUK"These are the administrators based not to far away from Red Hall that you are referring to. The RFL have been involved all along and knew on October the 20th that a new company Welsh Crusaders Ltd had already been set up. =#FF0000They already have the statements they will make next week under lock and key in Nigel Woods fridge'"
Link ?
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Yes that is what the RL want, but other than Catalans the Crusaders and to an extent Harlequins are hardly blueprints for advocating letting more expansion teams in at the expense of heartlands clubs.'"
but it doesn't matter how pointless these clubs are to the rest of us does it?
if the rfl and certain chairmen in SLE think they can get more money from TV and other advertising revenues because these clubs are in the league, then in my opinion they wont hesitate in dumping at least five northern club.
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| Quote ="j.c"but it doesn't matter how pointless these clubs are to the rest of us does it?
if the rfl and certain chairmen in SLE think they can get more money from TV and other advertising revenues because these clubs are in the league, then in my opinion they wont hesitate in dumping at least five northern club.'"
But based on Crusaders how is expansion going to make the remaining SL clubs more money. It would cost more in travel and accommodation and you would get less away fans. I doubt sky would stump up so much more to cover those kind of losses
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| Quote ="Starbug"Kinda makes you glad not to be in it , doesn't it
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it does mate,i just hate the politics of it all.
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| Quote ="j.c"it does mate,i just hate the politics of it all.'"
Which is why I so desperatley want the clubs who will never be an option to get their act together and start to sort out their future themselves , because the RFL will never help them
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"The RL subscriptions for Sky dont rest on having a welsh team in SL, and anyone who says they do please show me some evidence.'"
BSkyB, whilst keen to still get little black dishes on as many houses as possible, have a much bigger agenda. Subscriptions to Sky Sports....purely because RL is on....minimal in the greater scheme of things.
What BSkyB are interested in though, is the audience....both now and in the future. Do you really think they invented the latest darts league to sell dishes ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) ...it's about market share and when it comes to sport.......they have the largest.....
The RFL need to protect the golden goose that is BSkyB.....so they will pander to its needs. Without it.......4 or 5 semi pro teams from the M62 playing other towns from the M62.....in front of a crowd that would make Harlequins RL look like Man Utd.....no TV apart from the usual stereotypical b0ll0x dished up by the BBC yearly for the CC..........
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| Quote ="gutterfax"BSkyB, whilst keen to still get little black dishes on as many houses as possible, have a much bigger agenda. Subscriptions to Sky Sports....purely because RL is on....minimal in the greater scheme of things.
What BSkyB are interested in though, is the audience....both now and in the future. Do you really think they invented the latest darts league to sell dishes
...it's about market share and when it comes to sport.......they have the largest.....
The RFL need to protect the golden goose that is BSkyB.....so they will pander to its needs. Without it.......4 or 5 semi pro teams from the M62 playing other towns from the M62.....=#FF0000:3te85nxzin front of a crowd that would make Harlequins RL look like Man Utd.....no TV apart from the usual stereotypical b0ll0x dished up by the BBC yearly for the CC..........[/
So less RL on TV will result in lower crowds , I suppose you assume that will be because clubs will not be full time ?
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"But based on Crusaders how is expansion going to make the remaining SL clubs more money. It would cost more in travel and accommodation and you would get less away fans. I doubt sky would stump up so much more to cover those kind of losses'"
its not about the crusaders,its not about london,its not about catalan,its about expanding the bounderies of the sport.
i'll ask you two questions,what does the guinness premier league get off sky for that league and what does the RFU get for that f of a european comp were 90% of clubs in it are not worth a ?.
i'm guessing its a lot more than the rfl/sle get for there comp.
away support and travel costs are small fry mate when it come to other potential revenue streams
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| Quote ="Starbug"Which is why I so desperatley want the clubs who will never be an option to get their act together and start to sort out their future themselves , because the RFL will never help them'"
but it wont happen will it? there are to many clubs happy with the wad of cash they get off the rfl and then theres the other clubs who keep stretching out trying to reach the carrot thats always being dangled in front of them.
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| Agh! The last thing we need as a sport is something like this.
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| Quote ="Urmston Wire"Agh! The last thing we need as a sport is something like this.'"
Like what ?
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| This is the greatest thing to ever happen to RL. I'm so happy that an expansion club is facing financial difficulties. This is a momentous day for the game.
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| Quote ="headhunter"This is the greatest thing to ever happen to RL. I'm so happy that an expansion club is facing financial difficulties. This is a momentous day for the game.'"
Thats so wrong for you to say that.......I`d move them(AGAIN) to Talacre , at least its got a beach and the Widnes fraternity( Dalton,VM,softdrink et al) would get some fresh air........... ![SHHH eusa_shhh.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_shhh.gif)
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| News Flash.
Rugby League is a Business in the UK and those employed rightly or wrongly to administer and run that business will do what they see fit to make it work....and become MORE PROFITABLE than they already have made it over the last 15 years.......
Complaining about the way they run the Buiness is like moaning about the fact that TESCO don't stock a product you want.......but you still shopping in TESCO.
I suggest all those who don't like the way the RFL are managing the game, from Superleague to the amateur game
f()ck off and shop at Sainsburys......if you get my drift.
The amount of w4nking over the possible demise of a potential growth area for the game you're all suposed to love is quite sickening.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"News Flash.
Rugby League is a Business in the UK and those employed rightly or wrongly to administer and run that business will do what they see fit to make it work....and become MORE PROFITABLE than they already have made it over the last 15 years.......
Complaining about the way they run the Buiness is like moaning about the fact that TESCO don't stock a product you want.......but you still shopping in TESCO.
I suggest all those who don't like the way the RFL are managing the game, from Superleague to the amateur game
f()ck off and shop at Sainsburys......if you get my drift.
The amount of w4nking over the possible demise of a potential growth area for the game you're all suposed to love is quite sickening.'"
Not really - IMO it's more disgust at the way doomed projects like this get given chance after chance by the RFL. Rugby League in Wales will never work at SL level on it's own (same as it won't down south in England ![WHISTLE eusa_whistle.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_whistle.gif) ).
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| Quote ="gutterfax"News Flash.
Rugby League is a Business in the UK and those employed rightly or wrongly to administer and run that business will do what they see fit to make it work....and become MORE PROFITABLE than they already have made it over the last 15 years.......
Complaining about the way they run the Buiness is like moaning about the fact that TESCO don't stock a product you want.......but you still shopping in TESCO.
I suggest all those who don't like the way the RFL are managing the game, from Superleague to the amateur game
f()ck off and shop at Sainsburys......if you get my drift.
The amount of w4nking over the possible demise of a potential growth area for the game you're all suposed to love is quite sickening.'"
Great attitude that. If everyone outside of SL (who seem to be the only people who can see the erosion of our sport going on) did f()k off it would be mission accomplished for wood and lewis.
And our sport would be in a truly strong and respected position eh?
D()ck
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| Quote ="gutterfax"News Flash.
Rugby League is a Business in the UK and those employed rightly or wrongly to administer and run that business will do what they see fit to make it work....and become MORE PROFITABLE than they already have made it over the last 15 years.......
Complaining about the way they run the Buiness is like moaning about the fact that TESCO don't stock a product you want.......but you still shopping in TESCO.
I suggest all those who don't like the way the RFL are managing the game, from Superleague to the amateur game
f()ck off and shop at Sainsburys......if you get my drift.
The amount of w4nking over the possible demise of a potential growth area for the game you're all suposed to love is quite sickening.'"
Tesco dont tell all its longstanding customer s f()ck off whilst they hope to attract new ones D()ckhead, and that is the problem with how the clowns are steering the ship.
2 welsh clubs are essential imho, 2 french clubs are. Both areas have history in RL and produce players we need to attract to expand, but dont kill the roots along the way.
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