the longest serving coaches in Super League. Time for a change, I think!

Oh dear. another chissitt post with nothing to say about rugby. Just as well you do not give a t*ss about my posts or you may end up counting them, analysing them and writing rugby free responses to them



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One key reason for wakey not looking good is the squad they have put together for 2011. So many journeymen, several players at the end of their career and many unproven U20s players (some with no meaningful chance of having SL careers). Skinny on props and looking skinny on quality halves. Many of the players on very short contracts. It is destined to be a season tougher than 2010. Should wakey stay in SL would they be able to create a competitive team for 2012 2013? Unlikely. HKR finished mid table last year, how many wakey squad players would get into the HKR starting 17? ...1?....2? the poor recruitment in 2011 can have a long term adverse effect.

I doubt if you will find anybody that disagrees with what you say unfortunately, I don't think the bookies will be taking many bets on us staying in SL, even with a new stadium it would be a struggle without new investment as our recruitment has shown for the new season, one thing I do disagree with though and that is that we do have something to play for and that is our pride in as much as they could not relegate us on our football ability but simply because our toilets were not up to it, we might be on our knees atm but we are not dead and buried just yet, the club responds the best when in adversity(he says with his fingers crossed as he types

)Happy new year to all on here

It's never over 'til it's over.

I'm just waiting for the announcements from the shareholders meeting on Tuesday and then I'm going to bombard Richard Lewis, Nigel Wood, the papers etc with my opinion that;
* no team deserves to be denied a franchise
* booting out any of the existing clubs will not make SL stronger in the short term and definitely not in the long term
* the city of Wakefield, a city synonymous with rugby league, will become a branch of the Leeds United supporters club with fewer schools and amateur clubs playing rugby league and producing rugby league talent.

Most important though is to point out that Trinity have qualified for the playoffs twice and have never finished bottom of SL. Rugby League would be thought of as a basket case if it kicked out any team that was demonstrably not the weakest team on the field. That's why this season is all to play for - how much more ridiculous would a decision to expel Wakey be if they were beating other (apparently more worthy) teams and even challenging for a play off position.

(Most) supporters have pride in the name of Wakefield Trinity. I hope the players do this season 'cos they've got a mountain to climb but it's all about PRIDE in and SURVIVAL of our great club.

Beating Cas at MM would be a nice start. Can't wait!!!!

So what about Fax and Widnes? Do you include them in this statement?

We've had many squads made up of just such players in our time in Super League and we haven't finished bottom yet which I personally think is an incredible achievement. Given than when we came into Super League we were tipped to go straight back down without winning a game I have nothing but pride and respect for the players, coaches and fans who have kept us in Super League for so long. The board is a different matter and it is down to them that we have not moved on off the field. If we are to be 'relegated' next year then I will take even more pride in knowing we never finished bottom of the pile. (fingers crossed for this season of course!)

The difference is that both of those clubs were demoted via a promotion and relegation process
That was based on onfield performance and results.

Right but that's no longer in force so for one incident of P & R you effectively want them relegated forever to protect your own club? Whether or not you personally do this is the opinion of some people.

You can either be protected by licensing, and ergo are subject to the drop at the end of the three year period, or you can be under the cut and thrust rules of P & R. You can't have your cake and eat it.

did your club vote in favour of the franchise system ?

if so you can have no complaints if you get chucked out because the rfl/sle say you are the weakest of the other SL club who are in danger of losing there licence.

didn't widnes finish third bottom when they were relegated ?.hardly fair that is it ?.

No problem with any team being being granted a licence. My point is that it is very odd to relegate a team that is clearly not the weakest on the field (where it matters) and claim that it is strengthening the competition.

That's very generous of you.Or when you say no team do you mean Wakefield?Did you bombard Lewis,Wood and the newspapers in 2008 prior to the licence decisions with a similar view?

I think if you read my previous posts you will see that I'm not in favour of the franchise system and don't believe any club should be denied their chance to move up a division.

On the subject of who voted for franchising or not, I don't know whether Wakefield did or didnt but as has been said I dont think that any of the clubs really had much choice.

Season of goodwill and all that!

But - Did I write to all and sundry in 2008? No. I don,t think I realised that the system would be open to such manipulation. And, as Clan has said, it was Hobson's choice for the clubs anyway.
And No - I don't just mean Wakefield I mean what I said.

it doesn't matter much though does it.

Well whatever next, First of all you try and give us the impression you are a financial genius in an attempt to solve all our offield problems with a plan you have in mind for us using all your knowledge and expertise in business management. And now it turns out you are also a budding rugby coach with the skill and foresight to see that none of our younger players have any sort of chance of making it in SL and as for those coming to the end of their careers, well as a club we are unique there, oh hold on didn't you sign Brad Drew for last season, nah you don't have any aging players do you, Gilmour,Raleigh and the like they must still have another 5 or 6 year left in them [ujust a thought really but what is the point of asking a question and then answering it yourself [/u

Well we are wishing to give you a hammering at MM so hopefully

Dear RL/SL

Please please please demote both wakey and cas so we don't have to put up with 27 pages of sheer claptrap!!

Whooaah hold it right there. We will have no talk about rugby on this thread!

Does someone force you to read this thread or are you free click on all the other threads?

not sure what that is anymore,i did read on here that its akin to morris dancing or its a knock out,but who knows.

Ok mate,write to all and sundry if you want but it won't make one iota of difference.you see,nobody cares or is interested in the situation of clubs denied a licence except for the fans of that particular club.that's how it is now in this new age of franchising.good innit?

Can't believe I'm saying this, well said

its funny how he can read a 28 page thread and miss the thread title.