The disciplinary apartheid continues unabated. Grade D for Matty Lees? Pathetic, farcical again. It was a penalty, not the worst tackle ever, 1 game at most. He'll miss 5 games now? Just boring now and the bias showing far too blatantly and they don't care, they don't even try to hide it. Wright got his ankle caught in the turf, so are the 5 games for that happening, or for the lazy arm he put out to obstruct him? The hip drop in the Warrington game was worse than what Knowles did, clearly. No ban because there's no injury. Is the right way to do things? Or should they be judging the act itself?

The ban for Sironen? Tell me Saints are being treated the same as other clubs there? Look at the decapitation attempt in the Cas game and compare to that. Farcical, the bias clear.

The worst bit about it though is the blatant lies and nonsense they put in the minutes. The Catalans player 'attempted a tackle' whilst clubbing the Cas player off the ball in the head. Good to know. The Wright high shot in Ritson (A clear grade B, borderline card tackle) hit his shoulder they say, despite the clear video evidence of the contact being flush on the upper lip with the forearm.

One of the main priorities for IMG is ripping up the current disciplinary process and replacing it. Sacking and never working with those involved again is essential.

It is clear to see that the rfl are scared of St Helens winning 5 on the trot. Even the most bitter Wigan fan cannot say with a straight face that St Helens are being treated the same way.

If St Helens had been treated the same way they would be top of the league.

#TheStHelensWay
#WeDontBuyStarsWeMakeThem

A mediocre team this season at best.

True I cannot for 1 read anything you put down with a straight face.

Can't wait for the conspiracy theorists to defend the dirtiest player in Super League, again.

Just about perfected the art of playing 4/5 games a season and being banned for 20

Game won, nearly final whistle and he proves he is the stupidest player in the game.

There really needs to be some words said to the Saints players soon. How much longer can they let the poor tackling techniques and ill discipline go on?

If they really are the best team in the world, they should be able to tackle legally and still win.

I get that they play an aggressive style, and try and intimidate other teams, but it clearly is not working anymore. Time to adapt and move on.

Absolutely, and something I've said a few times.

There is no conspiracy. They play the game as aggressive as possible and right on the brink of the rules. This season they're getting it totally wrong (they did a few times last season too) and need to change their style otherwise the sin bins and bans will keep coming.

Interestingly, Wigan are a team of thugs and yet nobody has the wrap sheet that Knowles and indeed Matty Lees have. There's a good chance they beat the whole Wigan team on their own in terms of appearances in front of the MRP.

Yes, gross stupidity. What is he thinking!

A bog standad grade B, despite the mass hysteria. Obviously the context of it was beyond stupid, with there being seconds to go in a game we'd already won and him being back from a ban.

Interesting though, that's the first genuine thing you can actually pin on Knowles. All his previous bans have been utter nonsense.

Talking of bans, it'll be interesting to see what they give the Halifax player for the awful late hit on Lomax. Worse than any of the Saints bans for late hits, very high and required a HIA because the Doctor thought it was a bad one. Of course, with it not being a St Helens player, the officials didn't penalise it.

Oh will you just stop, it’s getting beyond boring listening to you bleat about hard done by you are.

I agree but its what he thinks make him relevant

Yeh and we circle the Sun but we don’t keep going on about it

this thread title needs renaming Sadders,

Saints squad, can they stop stopping themselves?

Or maybe-Can Saints fans stop crying !

Have to pull you up there. There has been an official state of emergency declared in the Wigan district today after a couple of injuries. Interviews with the coach, past players and the like, fans in blind uncontrolled panic. You'd think there had been an earthquake or tsunami the way they are all carrying on.

Meanwhile Saints have been decimated and persecuted and haven't even mentioned it, as that's what champion sides do.

The same on here when they lose

Still crying though.

That’s because you have been to busy moaning about Knowles and all disciplinary matters concerning the beloved Saints to have the time to talk about injuries

St Helens won their 4th SL title in a row at a canter with the greatest injury crisis ever seen in SL yet didnt moan once. Wigan get a couple of injuries and the sky is falling in

#levels

Can anyone name two more idiotic posters than the resident Saints apologists on here. They really need to seek help from a specialist.

You'd miss me if I was gone.

Yes, we would miss you. In the same way that we woulld miss toothache.