You get more desperate every year.

I'll take lack of personality and 6 grand finals over rentagob, loadsamoney know nowts.

How's those cut price, discounted TV packages going?

If the best we can replace Mcnamara with is Brian "two fingers" Noble then there's really no hope is there.

It's 1 billion Euros for 3 years

Wouldn't McNamara love a record like that.
His record speaks for itself. He has nothing to prove.

....marketers work on the "lifetime" of a customer. It often costs you more than a customers initial worth to attract said customer, but if you can hold onto them after the initial period, you start to reap rewards.
This is called "Buying Business" and is nothing new.

P&G are (well used to be) the worlds #1 spender on marketing and customer acquisition. They say that a consumer is not a customer, until they buy a product for the 7th time. They will spend heavily getting the first 6 purchases across the line, but then they will replace that spend with a brilliant CRM policy to keep what they now consider a vital part of their business.....a CUSTOMER.

BT will rely on apathetic customers who are "switch" averse coming on board. They dominated the broadband connection market in the UK in Q4 last year......

£828million then over 3 years? Even at £500 per customer that's a struggle to make up. That's before getting into other sports, and other business area costs. It's not as easy as just profiting elsewhere. The only money they make is advertising from it at the moment, and we haven't considered production costs either.

I remember reading they have 2 million watchers currently, I wonder how many will stay if they have to subscribe. Either way, in it's current state, it's hard to imagine a profit being turned at the moment. Major applaud if they do.

And would you like to point out where anyone has actually suggested that?

Apparently a certain chairman from a club begining with L and ending in S knew a lot more about the deal than any other chairman! We all know who that is then! The OLD BOYS CLUB AT IT AGIAN!!

Agreed, it's far easier to keep a customer than win one, and these start up costs are pretty normal (well the concept of them as opposed the actual figures) the problem I see with the bt deal is the sheer size and length of it, if they keep the price of champions league the same, they're still going to be paying another 800m in 3 years, the turn around on that deal really makes me question it's viability.

They are market leaders at the moment, and showing good growth. But as i say, how much there viewing figures are manipulated by offering it to free at the moment to those users is questionable. They can't afford to use the sports as a sweetener to keep the broadband growth going, so where the profit in the sports come from is a big question.

Just to clarify, i'm no fan of Mcnamara but to replace him with a coach who won nothing previously and was ridiculed by most for his biased team selections and lack of testicles would be a massive step backwards.

Salford won't even make the 8 this year.

Are you serious?

Did you read that on the internet?

Except many have BT sport inc HD for nothing ie Virginmedia viewers like myself, making nowt off me

Nah.......Virgin pay them out of your fees to them. And the phone line your stuff comes down isn't a freebie.

Okay, I'm starting to notice a pattern here: www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... rdice.html The second Salford player in as many days to step down from England, the same day koukash goes on a tirade against McNamara ... Did he sleep with his wife?

Okay, I'm starting to notice a pattern here: www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... rdice.html The second Salford player in as many days to step down from England, the same day koukash goes on a tirade against McNamara ... Did he sleep with his wife?

Love the "you don't marry the first woman" rant.

MK - the new Swiss Tony ?

Bang on about McBanana though.

London Broncos- They can't secure a local building company to sponsor them.

Yes. I've looked through the thread twice and I'm struggling to find anyone saying that Noble is the best we can replace McNamara with. I'd be grateful if you could point out what I'm clearly missing.

If you want a head coach who couldn't get Bradford into the play-offs,despite the quality of playing personnel at his disposal,against a head coach who took Bradford to 3 Grand Finals,then great.
When Brain Noble was coaching the national side things were so bad off the field that Phil Clarke,the team manager,resigned.

Still your judgement on coaches is duly noted.Well done on your loyalty.

No not LondoN, have another go. Try a club chairman who seems to have a bigger say than the others. Try a city beginning with L and ending ing S where the RFL are based. And no it wasn't on the internet, it was what Koukash said at the media day, reported by fans who went.

The clue's in the title of the thread Chester.

I'm aware of the press conference, and the article in the OP. Again, I'm not seeing anyone saying Noble is the best person to replace McNamara - do please show me what I'm not seeing. Is it possible that you're reading something that's not there?

And again, i'm no McNamara fan and we can definitely do better but we can also do a whole lot better than cud face.
McNamara hardly inherited a great side, unlike his predecessor who later jumped ship when it was all going **** up.

Still your loyalty to your lunatic, dummy spitting chairman and glory seeking coach is also duly noted.

Ahh.You don't like Dr Kouksh and you don't like Brian Noble.
That is why you didn't mention your choice of national coach and just wanted to insult individuals via your keyboard.
Wish I had known it was a waste of time some time ago.