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| Answer me a simple question.
Do Warrington RLFC condone violence?
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"Answer me a simple question.
Do Warrington RLFC condone violence?'"
Did we not got rid of Reardon ?
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| Did you not retain Clarke?
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| I'll just nip for a brew while he looks for another angle to justify his double standards.
[size=59Note to self: It's unfair to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.[/size
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"Did you not retain Clarke?'"
Didn't he play for Wigan when it happened went to prison then played for Broncos and had had all his punishments.
Still don't agree and we signed him under the same circumstances as hull signing reardon (injury crisis) but i don't hire and fire
if i did i wouldn't have touched him or any other thug for that matter
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| Nice superiority complex btw
[size=59note to self the man that argues with an idiot is probably an idiot too. solution stop arguing with idiots W_Y_79[/size
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"Didn't he play for Wigan when it happened went to prison then played for Broncos and had had all his punishments.
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He did play for us, he did learn from it.
It's a society problem and pretty much every club is guilty of employing players with some kind of violent past, gone are the days when it could be brushed under the carpet.
Yes Bobbin Along is right with double standards and blinkers etc but the reality is it's a society problem. Do RL act like the NRL or brush it under the carpet like Soccer.
One thing for sure, the players need to be educated how to deal with situations and it's consequences, they make mistakes they deal with the consequences not instantly given another contract.
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Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"This coming from a guy from Hull
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4136342.stm
Anyway seeing as we are going round in circles and you're making stuff up you can't back up i bid you farewell. I don't want a get a warning for the likes of you
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That was in 2005 before we entered Super League and the quality of life for East Hull Folk was brought nearer the level of the West Hull Folk.
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Anyway seeing as we are going round in circles and you're making stuff up you can't back up i bid you farewell. I don't want a get a warning for the likes of you
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That was in 2005 before we entered Super League and the quality of life for East Hull Folk was brought nearer the level of the West Hull Folk.
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| I don't remember Clarke being in any trouble, must have been a while ago like
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| Quote ="Dico"I don't remember Clarke being in any trouble, must have been a while ago like'"
When he played for the Pies many moons ago
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| If we dig far enough, won't it turn out that most teams have players with a 'colourful' past? Unless the RFL ban people, then I have no problem with any player making a living, much like anyone else.
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| Well said. It seems that rehabilitation is not high on some people's list of priorities.
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| Quote ="Nick NJ"
Reality is most clubs have players of the sort...'"
Okay, but sticking with a player is one thing, signing him while he's under investigation is another.
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We have this at the Catalans with Bird, no, we ain't happy either.
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| Everyone must be perfect on Rlfans and never needed a second chance.
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"Take a look on the hull forum. ive not seen 1 post that condones anything he has done or anyone who actually supports what the club has done.'"
I suggest you try reading it again with glasses and not tinted specs.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"i was glad they got rid of Reardon, i wish we'd never signed Clarke too for the same reason.
Agreed with Castleford
Disgusted with Hull FC/KR
Personally i think the RFL should start stepping in like the NRL already do and de-register these players actually FYI'"
I think that stepping in and deregistering players can work and it's the right thing to do in certain cases, where people are facing criminal charges for example. But it would be a joke if the RFL started acting like the NRL under David Gallop, who IMO seems to have made a complete hash of every one of those similar situations down under. There's probably only Todd Carney I can think of who's ultimately not just been allowed to switch teams and play on.
For me, it really must be the responsibility of the clubs involved - both dealing appropriately with 'troublesome' players and choosing not to sign those who admit to being complete thugs. Easy? - if they employ their consience!
The only way I can measure what's 'appropriate' action is to ask, surely if most of us were busted doing half the crap some of these guys get away with, we'd get the bloody sack?! I'm not saying I'm against giving second chances (or in the case of Leon, a third and fourth chance) but these blokes have to earn it.
One thing's for sure, there isn't a club in the land who at one stage or another (or for many years in most cases) hasn't knowingly employed these people, so nobody should be singling out either Hull club, or anyone else for that matter.
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| Quote ="oxford-pie-eater"I think that stepping in and deregistering players can work and it's the right thing to do in certain cases, where people are facing criminal charges for example. ...
One thing's for sure, there isn't a club in the land who at one stage or another (or for many years in most cases) hasn't knowingly employed these people, so nobody should be singling out either Hull club, or anyone else for that matter.'"
I don't agree with your first point. It's okay for the RFL to deregister people who have been convicted, but "facing criminal charges" is not a good reason. We presume innocence in this country and should legislate our sport in this way. (Though if they plead guilty that's another matter).
I agree that we shouldn't single out FC/KR, I do find it interesting that the topic has come up now, since us at sang-et-or went over this a while back. Interesting to see how views change if the player is an asset.
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| Quote ="bikerpie"Should have kept Briscoe, then you wouldn't have a problem at full back.'"
Where have i heard that one before?
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"i wonder how all those HUJJ FC fans who posted on the HKR site about Cockayne are feeling now.
Wife beater or drunken thug
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So because Hull FC signed somebody involved in domestic violence, Hull FC fans are suddenly a fan of people that commit domestic violence?
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| Quote ="BalearicHullFan"icon_confused.gif So because Hull FC signed somebody involved in domestic violence, Hull FC fans are suddenly a fan of people that commit domestic violence?'"
Dress it up however you like.
Bottom line is that the definition of hypocrisy will be re-written based on this.
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| Reardon isn't a "wife beater".
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| Quote ="Munich"Dress it up however you like.
Bottom line is that the definition of hypocrisy will be re-written based on this.'"
That makes no sense what-so-ever. Thats like saying, if my companies employee commits a crime as a share holder of that company I condone their actions.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Reardon isn't a "wife beater".'"
ex-wife beater?
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