You not banned yet champion?

Correct JM with Dodd in our side this year we would have finished top in August



Catch up Superleague

I think all us Saints fans need to be banned from this forum so you can just get on with the Band Name Game thread.

Also to add that the difference in Football is even if the title winner runs away with the league and wins it early there are other things for the TV to focus on, the battle for the European places and Relegation which in Football can mean financial oblivion the drop in money is that big. In SL the interest would have fizzled out with a few weeks of the season to run.

I personally think the current playoff format is fair, Saints got a week off and a home playoff (and meant to have had a days extra rest) Salford and Leeds ended the season in form and got further than the league table suggested, no complaints from me.

I was being serious. If their signings click they will be a hard team to beat

Ha.. that got me

On a serious note.. any chance you can pull back a bit until the rest of us catch up

The top 5 system was the best one for me, it gave the team that finished top the biggest advantage.

Saints were deserved winners last night.

As others have said, it's virtually impossible to compare across different eras. For me, what's most impressive is the consistency from Saints across the SL era. This is a different issue from proclaiming them the 'best team ever'. For that accolade the best objective yardstick is being able to win all the domestic trophies followed by the WCC, but even then it's legitimate to consider the quality of opposition in a given season, so not easy.

My personal 'greatest SL team ever' is the Bulls of 2003. In those days the likes of Peacock and Vainikolo were simply on a different level... But I accept this is entirely subjective. Saints with Jamie Lyon were also pretty special.

This Sintellins team with no injuries and a few NRL players could be the England team and look better than the current one:-

Welsby

Makinson
Farnworth
Percival
Young

Lomax
Dodd

Walmsley
Roby
Lees
Thompson (ex saints)
Batchelor
Knowles

They would all be 'injured'

Saints have a history of players missing internationals due to injuries. 14 GB caps in 10 years for the greatest hooker who ever lived, Keiron Cunningham.

It’s funny I started this thread 8 years ago and it all still applies pretty much, for a different set of players. You could resurrect this in a decade and it will still apply.

The title actually comes from a line I remember Stevo saying a lot during games when Saints were doing well - “This sintellins team Eddie…” just as a statement with no follow up.

How many games did Great Britain actually play though? I remember watching him play for Wales multiple times. Maybe add those caps in to make it fairer?

He played 27 international games, think he only had 2 injured years in 10 years, averaging around 3 games a year.

Lomax played most of the season with a ruptured bicep and still won SL lmao. If you get a cold you phone in work sick lmao

The challenge for Saints is now to go over to Aus and play their Grand Final winners (Penrith) like the BIG teams have done in the past.

Never going to happen, Saints will not buy up all the best players in the competition as though there was no tomorrow and years further down the line sell their ground to Tesco and go ground rental.

Massive big gap these days between NRL and Superleague, salary cap alone is £6m (NRL) £2m (Superleague} The challenge for Saints is to go High Five, going to be a tough campaign next year.

Can St Helens win 10 grand finals on the trot?

Wigan and Leeds (the Big clubs) have gone over there and played their champion teams in the Superleague era.

From memory it was Saints the original BIG team who first went over there in 1976 and that started the World Club Challenge event. I don’t think anybody has gone done under during Superleague and won the challenge game.

Prior to that they (saints) set up a European Challenge event with France but was short lived because the difference in quality player was too much.

Over the last 5 years the disparity in that salary cap with Oz is just too much in respect to quality of players.

However Wigan was the first team to win,yours was just a friendly much like Wigan v Wire in USA.
You didnt start the world club challenge Wigans success against Manly prob started the WCC.

Incorrect, Saints part time pros started the concept by actually going over to OZ and playing them in their own backyard. The Wigoons didn't have the guts to do that until they were well established full time pros in 1994.

I speak to Graeme West occasionally he mentioned Wigoon was spending far too much money on buying up all the best players and the players salary was almost £2million in 1992 and the Whitbread Stand cost £1.4 million, that put them over the edge because the turnover was only around £3 million.

The Wigoons BOUGHT Success and thats why they are rentees to Wigan Athletic to this very day and that BIG TEAM image dissapeared when Bradford, Saints and Leeds took over for long periods of Superleague.

Bollocks Stain fan,they played Manly in the late 80s when they were part time and won you stain freaks lost your game in Aus,you spent big to keep up with Wiganyou just couldnt as you have in the actual RL history are second best to Wigan and you know it.
I honestly think you are mentally unstable as Wigan are spending so much time in your head space that it really is unhealthy for you Stainman.

You're 84 and acting like you're 14. The challenge for Saints and for any other Super League club is that there isn't a cat in hells chance Australia or the NRL or Penrith will pay for any of that.

Last season Penrith refused to come to England for a fully funded game and threw out a pathetic throwaway comment about us going there (Completely unfunded). Childish fans of other clubs jump on that as if it's gospel and Saints backed out of it. This childish reaction at a time when Wigan are considering close 2 of the stands at their rented ground to make matchday cheaper and provide some semblance of an atmosphere too. So many things need fixing before you come sniping at us.

The problem is that not enough away fans come (Saints/Wire excluded) to visit the stadium to open the north stand sometimes.
I do agree we need to fix things but it isnt only our fans sniping,you lot do a pretty good job at it.