If the Warrington team take that attitude they will likely find themselves with the same result as last seasons semi final 'Bye' against HKR.

I am hoping this team, which shows a lot better team spirit will erase the two past encounters.

How many times in sport have we seen a team come out thinking they have won before they have played, only for the opposition out enthuse them?

Regarding Farrell.. He always destroys us. I think he's underrated.. He's like the Wigan magnet. He draws in the opposition and quick to read a pass or dummy.
It's always the Tomkins and the Charnleys who get the plaudits for the hard work he does.
Awful penalty machine though. He can lose a game as much as win one.

The 'performance' from Tomkins was one of the most spineless I've seen from a rugby player in a long time.

Reluctant to run the ball in, the tackling technique of a frightened child, moaning at the referee, waving his arms about. A horrible cowardly bloke.

Never mind the last 3 years, what was he like last night

Tomkins was abysmal.

The NRL has destroyed him. He's not buzzing around all over the pitch like he normally does, kick returns are none existent and he seems to be making bad errors week in week out.

He's on Marquee money though

What do neutrals make of thaler refereeing of this game?I watched it and thought a few things either way could have gone reversely but overall he didn't impact scoreline..hull had enough possession to win that game by 20/30.for all the sneeeeeyynnndd chants wigan could have won that game with so little attacking possession.saying all that they deserve to be in final but Warrington on paper have a lot of craft in backs far more than hull.its just if hulls pack can be met in middle.radford has no plan b unfortunately plan a had been more than enough this year

Unlike your mob who don't seem to have a plan of any description.

Wasn't bringing a humberside squabble to the VT. I don't like you and I'm sure it's mutual.try answering the post or even better go yourself

They must have missed our first try when it was created from broken play. Plan C maybe?
Plan D is not getting beat by a 50 point margin at Wembley.

Is your favourite tipple BITTER by any chance?

Yes.just after reading multi page opus on thaler being bent and favoring wigan in your semi on your page I wondered if I'd watched same game.Most of you guys making out you won despite Thaler?I'm no fan of that referee but I didn't think he was leaning either way.few baffling ones both side.Anyway Il take my leave and let you worry about Wembley and concern myself with Batley.

The decision which really got me annoyed was the one with Minichiello's disallowed try. He knocked on, fair enough, but how we didnt get the scrum from Williams losing control of the ball in the impact of the tackle I have no idea! Especially as earlier in the half, Yeaman lost the ball 2 yards backwards in the tackle and it was deemed a knock on

The ball lost on impact of the tackle has been classed as a loose carry by the ball carrier and therefore a knock on by that ball carrier as long as I can recall.

Wigan are a rank average team. They are well coached within their limitations but, Williams aside, are clueless in attack now that ratboy seems to have had his pace & heart removed. It's May since they scored 30 points which is unbelievable for a team challenging for the hub cap. Hull have a team packed with talent but their attack is poor, given that talent. Wire are head & shoulders above them in attacking prowess; I can't see past a comfortable Wire win on the big Wembley pitch.

I think Thaler is generally our best ref, but there were a few odd decisions both ways on Friday. Not one of his better games, I'd say.

3rd best points in the league so far

an fc defence that beat wire at their own place, wire only scoring from two fc mistakes!

we have just as good a chance as wire have! if there was ever a 50/50 game at wembley, this is probably the one

Wembley pitch size for football

"as lined for association football, is 115 yd (105 m) long by 75 yd (69 m) wide"

taken from[urlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wembley_Stadium#Pitch[/url

KC pitch size for football

"Pitch Size: 114 x 78 yards"

taken from [urlhttp://www.footballgroundguide.com/leagues/england/premier-league/kc-stadium-hull-city.html[/url

The historic notion of Wembley's wide open spaces is a myth.

Don't get me wrong, I'll be down there cheering you on. But Wire have scored 40 or more on 8 occasions this year, Hull 3 times. Your defence is definitely your strong point but I just don't think it will be enough. I will be more than happy to be proved wrong.

They may have scored 40 or more points in 8 games but not against us! That's the most important stat

The wembley pitch will be the regulation 100m long and will be within the guidelines for width

wire are definitely a team who take advantage of poor defence but they're also pretty fragile at times. If Hull dominate their forwards they will likely win unless sandow plays out of his skin on the day

Can't disagree with that. If Hull can only just manage to scrape out a win against half a Wigan side Warrington are going to destroy them.