hes a person who is an ex RU player

what you you expect, him to be fair towards rl?

Quote ="Rooster Booster"Can someone clarify. Is State of Origin not simply a 3 game series between players from the NSWRL and QRL comps. Are they threfore nothing to do with the NRL as such if that's the case apart from playing first grade in a comp called the NRL. Which basically was the NSWRL and then the ARL. Not winding up, but can someone seriously clarify? Just wondering if gutterfax needs to include 15 SOO games in his estimations if Origin doesn't classify as NRL games, which they may not.'" seriously ...lol thats really funny

Quote ="Rooster Booster"Can someone clarify. Is State of Origin not simply a 3 game series between players from the NSWRL and QRL comps. Are they threfore nothing to do with the NRL as such if that's the case apart from playing first grade in a comp called the NRL. Which basically was the NSWRL and then the ARL. Not winding up, but can someone seriously clarify? Just wondering if gutterfax needs to include 15 SOO games in his estimations if Origin doesn't classify as NRL games, which they may not.'" seriously ...lol thats really funny

He could promote whatever he likes.We're not going to be swayed away from the game we all grown to love...



I'll just tell everyone here again. I played union @ school,we weren't allowed to play RL...They, my school wouldn't even allow us playing RL at lunchtime.But we still played and got busted for it,then eventually they gave up .

Quick search of google came up with this.....not sure which Herald it refers too though........and I was apparently incorrect....it wasn't US dollars but Aussie Dollars. My bad.


[iTHE International Rugby Board has made an audacious dash for cash by deciding to slug countries an exorbitant $207million tournament fee to host the 2015 World Cup. And if any country wants to host the 2019 World Cup, it will cost a whopping $248m.

When the IRB announced after its meeting in Hong Kong on Tuesday that the hosts of the 2015 and 2019 World Cups would be decided in July next year, a major detail was left out - massive up-front tournament fees.

The Herald was told last night that the IRB had decided it would charge the 2015 World Cup host nation a tournament fee of £100m ($A207.38m). The 2019 host would be hit with a £120m ($A248.75m) fee.

This initiative surprised, even astounded some leading IRB delegates, who argued that it was unreasonable considering that many other major sporting organisations did not charge a tournament fee for world events.

This move would ensure that only a few rich rugby nations, such as England and France, could bid for World Cups from 2015 as countless fringe nations would shy off even contemplating staging the event because it would be far too expensive.

It is understood that the Australian IRB delegates were the only ones to argue at the meeting against the excessive tournament fees.

But Australia encountered widespread opposition from numerous other countries, including Scotland, Ireland and Wales - who are not in a financial position to host the tournament but could clearly see a financial windfall coming their way involving the minimum of effort. More money going into the IRB coffers means a bigger slice coming their way.

As one international rugby official told the Herald last night: "The Rugby World Cup is only just over 20 years old, but in that time the IRB had become excessively and unnecessarily greedy."

This tournament fee comes on top of the host nation having to bear all the costs of the tournament, while the IRB, through Rugby World Cup Limited, will continue receiving from the tournament all commercial revenue, including broadcasting rights, sponsorship, corporate hospitality and travel packages.

As Australia discovered when it hosted the 2003 World Cup, officials had to be shrewd to finish with a profit. The cost of staging the 2003 tournament was $120m and estimations are that the 2015 tournament will probably cost three times that.

The costs in 2003 were offset by ticket sales, which saw Australia eventually finishing with a net profit of $83m, of which the IRB received $40m - which was a tournament fee of sorts, but came out of profits and was not an up-front figure.

According to the 2011 World Cup fact sheet, New Zealand, in a partnership involving the New Zealand Rugby Union and the New Zealand Government, has "guaranteed to deliver a minimum guarantee to the IRB".

Now, in July next year, a country interested in hosting the tournament in 2019 must decide and even gamble 10years out from the actual event whether that they can provide an "ironclad guarantee" of $248m to the IRB.

That is why some IRB officials believe the only countries who may contemplate being a World Cup host would be England, France and possibly Australia and Japan. England are the favourites to host the 2015 edition, while Australia may be among the candidates, along with Japan, for the 2019 tournament.

The IRB has stressed that it wants the 2015 World Cup to make a considerable profit, especially as the 2011 event in New Zealand will not be as lucrative as the previous two tournaments in France and Australia.

Not surprisingly, the IRB press release that followed the Hong Kong meeting emphasised how the World Cup had become a money-spinner.

IRB and Rugby World Cup chairman Bernard Lapasset said the 2007 World Cup "generated a surplus of over £120m which has been reinvested into the game through grants to unions, the underwriting of international tournaments and the funding of targeted strategic high performance programmes".[/i

yeah a number of RL fans have messaged me complaining about all the trolls on here who clearly have an anti RL agenda.

its turning away the good knowledgable posters for the people with little to contribute

thankfully ive put them on ignore since the RL season has started, why waste time on them when weve got footy to talk about

i expect by the time the footy is finished theyll have given up trolling here as people will no longer fall for their anti RL spiel

now thats copy and pasting...

exactly the same as me

no RL at school only union. everyone played tough footy at lunch though

god i found union an awful sport to play ...

I played union but like so many we found it a very scrappy game.No wonder the school wouldn't let us play RL.To hard on the body...

dont take the trolls too seriously M4E, its just BS on an internet forum

we'll get out record TV in 12 months and well put AFL in their place then ....

hopefully john quayle will be back as Chair of the ARL IC as well ...

we are the number 1 sport in Australia, the SL war set us back and with the next TV deal well put it too bed

Must've been some exchange rate at the time.

And dont forget the irb downgraded their miniumum fee requirement.


Thats to cover the loss to the NZru, the NZ government have (so far) spent over $500 mill.


I have a horrible feeling thats beyond even your silky skills

I really can't wait mate....


If SL never happened union would've never gone proffesional.


RL a pro sport since 1895.RU a pro sport since 1995 thx to the SL war.

lol

RU people always get their figures confused anyway ...

these are the people that claim viewership of 4 billion ...lol

union went professional in part because of the establishment of the auckland warriors meant we could sign all the best All Blacks, and nz is important in the RU landscape ...

our next TV deal should mean player wages in RL are such that we can pretty much sign as many elite RU players as we wish after the World Cup

its been a long wait since 1995 but it sure feels a lot like back then ...

and thats before we even start expanding ....

weve got a good 20 years of massive growth ahead of us

Now all we need is a second Kiwi team.That will will do wonders for the game in NZ...

Let's see after the union WC how many AB's will cross over and same with the union in OZ....But it was funny
how some ex lower grade saints players are playing for the wallabies now...

Luckily, my school played Rugby rather than union, tho folk may be surprised at how few schools in the (UK) 'heartland' actually played RL as part of the curriculum, back in the 80's anyway.


Nah bud thats, [iout of date and inaccurate[/i copy and pasting






I get this image of an irb statistictian fat fingering his union calculator and multiplying whatever number appears by a 1000

Tbf bud, I reckon gf has the interests of the game at heart and makes some very valid points, once ya get past the bs about union.
He posted some excellent stuff about the promotion of International RL on the vt the other day. Take the fella off ignore and have a read.

from what ive heard he has 2 reasons to dislike RL :

1. he played pro RU

2. he applied for a job with a RL club and they wouldnt even consider his resume ... lol

Massive growth should in different countries, I get the feeling the Nrl sees a few more clubs in the heart lands would be enough.

Perth, Adelaide, the south island of New Zealand, a joint venture between Darwin and Png.

Then what?

In Super League the aim should be a Scottish side, Irish, Spanish and at least another southern side.

Does that count as massive expansion?

His not Dutoni is he?

i wonder what happened to that idiot ...

And I thought he don't copy and paste, well the inacurate one's anyway.....

His retired.From talking rubbish....

Fairy muff bud, you've been round ere longer then me and know whats gone on.


I kinda miss t'old troll and his insane ramblings



Edit:
Aye, I forgot he doesnt like cut and pastes, and no wonder:


So much for gf's assertion that the irb will recieve a billion US$ from tournament fees.

1 Seven News Seven 1,062,000 259,000 277,000 217,000 126,000 182,000
2 New Tricks ABC1 1,023,000 267,000 297,000 169,000 119,000 171,000
3 Better Homes And Gardens Seven 988,000 282,000 298,000 152,000 134,000 123,000
4 Today Tonight Seven 981,000 219,000 271,000 195,000 128,000 168,000
5 Nine News Nine 970,000 304,000 273,000 211,000 104,000 79,000
6 ABC News ABC1 888,000 206,000 270,000 160,000 107,000 144,000
7 A Current Affair Nine 872,000 241,000 267,000 191,000 89,000 84,000
8 Home And Away Seven 811,000 211,000 218,000 178,000 101,000 102,000
9 Nine’s Live Friday Night Football Nine 747,000 416,000 *** 331,000 *** ***
10 The Biggest Loser Families – Challenge Ten 734,000 178,000 218,000 170,000 58,000 109,000
11 The 7pm Project Ten 664,000 156,000 211,000 152,000 61,000 83,000
12 7.30 ABC1 616,000 168,000 189,000 87,000 60,000 111,000
13 Two And A Half Men -Rpt Nine 592,000 201,000 261,000 *** 59,000 71,000
14 Ten News At Five Ten 586,000 152,000 188,000 79,000 66,000 101,000
15 2011 NAB Cup: Grand Final: Essendon V Collingwood Seven 556,000 12,000 409,000 1,000 84,000 50,000
16 Hot Seat Nine 487,000 157,000 111,000 133,000 48,000 38,000
17 Miranda ABC1 461,000 107,000 145,000 69,000 51,000 89,000
18 Deal Or No Deal Seven 447,000 103,000 146,000 83,000 58,000 58,000
19 Undercover Boss Fri Ten 442,000 92,000 130,000 96,000 52,000 71,000
20 Sunrise Seven 402,000 112,000 109,000 96,000 32,000 53,000
21 Nine’s Friday Night Football Nine 389,000 241,000 *** 148,000 *** ***
22 World News Australia Late SBS ONE 366,000 130,000 114,000 54,000 47,000 21,000
23 Whitechapel Rpt ABC1 365,000 80,000 124,000 60,000 46,000 54,000
24 The Bold And The Beautiful Ten 355,000 93,000 105,000 81,000 38,000 39,000
25 Coast SBS ONE 341,000 85,000 97,000 74,000 40,000 45,000
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Still the NRL outrates the AFL.

throw in regional viewers of 500,000 to those figure too..