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| This is what really annoys me about the International Board.
Why oh why can't RL market the game properly,I mean FFS the product is there and I know it's only Aus v PNG but it is the 4 Nations.
This is supposed to be the pinnacle of RL in the only International tournament of the year,for God's sake I wish they could promote the game properly for a change,when will they ever learn. ![Mad icon_mad.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_mad.gif)
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"This is what really annoys me about the International Board.
Why oh why can't RL market the game properly,I mean FFS the product is there and I know it's only Aus v PNG but it is the 4 Nations.
This is supposed to be the pinnacle of RL in the only International tournament of the year,for God's sake I wish they could promote the game properly for a change,when will they ever learn.
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Never!
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| Field of Dreams marketing from the Australians. Simply put, they though all they had to do was announce a venue and KO time and the rest would look after itself........something my club have been doing for years
Australia, whilst pretty immune from the global recession, is still a place where there are lots of other things to do on a sunny Sunday.......especially when the result of the game is pretty much bolted on. The people responsible for marketing this game should have used it as an opportunity for RL fans who go to their club games and MAJOR internationals to maybe introduce their sons/daughters to international footie. 1 adult ticket should have come with the option of getting 2 free kids tickets.......local schools should have received info on this offer (pester power works wonders) and special offers should have been made available every amateur club in the region. None of the above would have cost a lot of money....but now they've left it late....last minute TV/Radio/Press will be used.....costing money and impacting on any profit made.
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| Quote ="Dei Morti Viventi"Just shows international RL is seen as a joke, in the northern and southern hemispheres.'"
We're 5 days away from what will be a cracking 4 Nations tournament and you post this
I really do wonder if Rugby League fans actually want the sport to fail sometimes
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Why don't they play it in PNG? There would be a capacity crowd at the ground and another 15,000 in trees around the ground to see it.
They really dont have any ambition do they.'"
They have no clue.
And why DM is defending them I have no idea...
Colin Love and Co. your tickets out the door are waiting for collection at gate 12.
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| Quote ="Dei Morti Viventi"Just shows international RL is seen as a joke, in the northern and southern hemispheres.'"
There is some truth to this....though I doubt the merits of the post.
Certainly in Australia, where the analysis rates with mackenzie's.
The fact it isn't a joke, but is often labelled as such by the ignorant and biased, is the sad issue for those of us that truly love the international game.
Time mends all wounds however and we are heading slowly in the right direction.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Just because something is good for the customer doesn't mean it is marketed well. They aren't even nearly the same thing.
I could have the best product in the world. But if it's not marketed well, no-one will buy it. If I make it better, the only people it will benefit are the few that it were marketed too before.'"
so offering the customer more product for the same price is a bad thing ?
lol
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| Quote ="Dei Morti Viventi"Just shows international RL is seen as a joke, in the northern and southern hemispheres.'"
well get 1 million people watching the game on TV.
sorry but thats a dumb post
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"This is what really annoys me about the International Board.
Why oh why can't RL market the game properly,I mean FFS the product is there and I know it's only Aus v PNG but it is the 4 Nations.
This is supposed to be the pinnacle of RL in the only International tournament of the year,for God's sake I wish they could promote the game properly for a change,when will they ever learn.
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origin is the pinnacle of RL.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"origin is the pinnacle of RL.'"
It shouldn't be nor was it designed to be.
I've just received a email from souths telling me I can discounted tickets for the game as a souths member.
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| Same with the Roosters. Possibly all NRL clubs then?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"It shouldn't be nor was it designed to be.
I've just received a email from souths telling me I can discounted tickets for the game as a souths member.'"
if england or nz could give the roos a similar type of competition as you get in origin then international RL could be the pinnacle
An origin game gets 3.3 million people watching
the best RL test matches will get 1 - 1.5 million people watching
pretty clear to me.
the only RL event which gets close to origin is the grand final.
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| I do agree it is dally I'm just saying it shouldn't be.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"This is what really annoys me about the International Board.
Why oh why can't RL market the game properly,I mean FFS the product is there and I know it's only Aus v PNG but it is the 4 Nations.
This is supposed to be the pinnacle of RL in the only International tournament of the year,for God's sake I wish they could promote the game properly for a change,when will they ever learn.
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It just shows what a great game RL is .............it's survived 115 years of mismanagement by kn**head administrators
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| Quote ="dally messenger"if england or nz could give the roos a similar type of competition as you get in origin then international RL could be the pinnacle'"
I genuinely don't know how you have the inclination never mind the balls to type that with New Zealand being world champions
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| Quote ="dally messenger"if england or nz could give the roos a similar type of competition as you get in origin then international RL could be the pinnacle
An origin game gets 3.3 million people watching
the best RL test matches will get 1 - 1.5 million people watching
pretty clear to me.
the only RL event which gets close to origin is the grand final.'"
you do realise the last 4 Int comps have been far more competitve than the last 4 SOO don't you?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"so offering the customer more product for the same price is a bad thing ?
lol'"
Yes, it's a very bad thing for business. You make money by offering less for more, not more for less. The fact you can't understand this doesn't surprise me. It's great for one party. It's terrible for the other.
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| Quote ="Dunbar"I genuinely don't know how you have the inclination never mind the balls to type that with New Zealand being world champions'"
You cant judge the quality of a side on the back of one or 2 upsets.
The Kangaroos are the best side on the planet right now. Thats a fact.
The RLIF rankings prove it as well.
HTH
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"You cant judge the quality of a side on the back of one or 2 upsets.
The Kangaroos are the best side on the planet right now. Thats a fact.
The RLIF rankings prove it as well.
HTH
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I'm sure the RLIF rankings are a great comfort to the Kangaroo players every time they look at their World Cup runners up medals
History doesn't remember world rankings, history remembers winners... in 20 or 30 years time, the New Zealand team from 2008 will be able to show their children and grandchildren their World Cup winners medals. Whether you refuse to believe it or not, I guarantee that every member of that Australian World Cup losing team would swap the RLIF rankings for a winners medal
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| Quote ="Dunbar"History doesn't remember world rankings, history remembers winners... '"
Possibly not the best post for an England RL supporter to have made.......
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Possibly not the best post for an England RL supporter to have made.......'"
So, you do agree with me then?
I was thinking, seeing as though you profess to have the inside track on the international Rugby League scene, maybe you could suggest to the Australian 2008 World Cup squad that they print out the RLIF rankings from Wikipedia and frame the page. Then in 30 or so years time, when the New Zealand team show their Grand children their world cup winning medals, the Australian squad can show theirs the RLIF rankings from the time and say that Barry McKenzie said “You can’t judge the quality of a side on the back of one or 2 upsets”, we were the best team
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| Quote ="Dunbar"So, you do agree with me then?
I was thinking, seeing as though you profess to have the inside track on the international Rugby League scene, maybe you could suggest to the Australian 2008 World Cup squad that they print out the RLIF rankings from Wikipedia and frame the page. Then in 30 or so years time, when the New Zealand team show their Grand children their world cup winning medals, the Australian squad can show theirs the RLIF rankings from the time and say that Barry McKenzie said “You can’t judge the quality of a side on the back of one or 2 upsets”, we were the best team'"
Barry McKenzie does wholeheartedly agree with you that "History doesn't remember world rankings, history remembers winners"
And I'm sure the 2008 Kangaroos would have liked to have been World Champions on that night in Brisbane in 2008.
But I'm sure a good few of them will still be in the Aussie side that beats NZ in the 2013 final
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| Quote ="dally messenger"origin is the pinnacle of RL.'"
It might be in the quality shown.
But surely the ideal pinnacle of the game is the International game.
Come on Dally surely you can see this.
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Barry McKenzie does wholeheartedly agree with you that "History doesn't remember world rankings, history remembers winners"
And I'm sure the 2008 Kangaroos would have liked to have been World Champions on that night in Brisbane in 2008.
But I'm sure a good few of them will still be in the Aussie side that beats NZ in the 2013 final
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And hopefully with you making this comment either the Kiwis or even better still England can pi55 you off Barry. ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"It might be in the quality shown.
But surely the ideal pinnacle of the game is the International game.
Come on Dally surely you can see this.'"
Personally, I think Origin lost its edge when they started to referee it like a ‘normal’ game. Origin was always that bit more brutal than the week to week stuff but the referees clamped down* and now it’s similar to a high quality first grade game. I’m sure it still matters to people from NSW and Queensland and I will still watch it but it has lost something which (I hope) international League can replace
* and the they stopped stapling people’s heads back together on the pitch
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