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| James Clare, Bradford to Leigh, 2 year deal confirmed.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Spot on, the ex bulls players, who are yet to receive their December wages, will still have mortgages and bills to pay. Both the clubs and players have done nothing wrong and nobody should suggest otherwise.'"
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| No qualms about the players (and hopefully the staff too) finding work.
It might even make Super League worth watching. Christ our guts are already wrenching when we see the England line up. More Bulls talent could give England the World Cup!!
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| Quote ="vastman"You know something I don't
Of course we would but Hulls good season was down to team work and desire as much as anything and wasn't the work of 17 super humans.
There are plenty of Hull FC players who have looked very ordinary in the past and may do in the future and would do nothing elsewhere IMHO - ditto there are plenty of players from last years bottom four clubs who would hugely enhance Hull or any other club for that matter - or are you seriously saying you couldn't find some value in a few Hudds or Leeds players or that humble little Wakefield don't posses a young Winger in Tom Johnstone who isn't better than your current wingers because he is.'"
Not looking for point scoring here, I always like to see an outsiders view. Which current Hull players do you think wouldn't do anything elsewhere?
On the subject of Johnstone. I'd be very happy for Hull to sign him if the prospect arose, because he's got outstanding potential, but our first choice wingers for the current season are likely to be Talanoa and Fonua. At this moment in time, both are better players than Johnstone.
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| Tom Johnstone Is a great young player. He needs to move to a top club, this will help him develop further and gain international honours.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Tom Johnstone Is a great young player. He needs to move to a top club, this will help him develop further and gain international honours.'"
He's at one but nice try
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Not looking for point scoring here, I always like to see an outsiders view. Which current Hull players do you think wouldn't do anything elsewhere?
On the subject of Johnstone. I'd be very happy for Hull to sign him if the prospect arose, because he's got outstanding potential, but our first choice wingers for the current season are likely to be Talanoa and Fonua. At this moment in time, both are better players than Johnstone.'"
Trust me they aren't, better team I'll grant you.
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| tom johnstone is one of the hottest properties in sl
i can't see him sticking with wakefield long term and that he will move to one of the bigger / more successful sides within the next couple of seasons
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"tom johnstone is one of the hottest properties in sl
i can't see him sticking with wakefield long term and that he will move to one of the bigger / more successful sides within the next couple of seasons'"
Are Leeds fans feeling that vulnerable ?
Johnstone seems to be doing just fine at Trinity and will make further progress this season.
Another few tries against Leeds to add to his Boxing Day efforts will be good to see
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"tom johnstone is one of the hottest properties in sl
i can't see him sticking with wakefield long term and that he will move to one of the bigger / more successful sides within the next couple of seasons'"
Wouldn't hold it against him if/when he does - rugby league is a relatively short career after all (in Solomona's case very short). I just hope we get a hefty fee for him.
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| Quote ="vastman"Trust me they aren't, better team I'll grant you.'"
Oh yes they are.
I admittedly haven't see that much of Johnstone. I've seen his wonder try against Hudds, and a couple of other special efforts, but other than that I've only seen him maybe 9 or 10 times at most, so obviously I'm not the best person to pass judgement. He is lightning quick, pretty elusive, and given his age he should only improve. But at this moment in time he still falls into the one for the future category. Plenty of players have looked just as exciting only to slip into relative obscurity. He's not done anything on the big stage yet either.
Talanoa lacks pace, but he's been a key part in Hull's engine room since he got here, and considering where he was when we picked him up he's got to go down as one of the best signings in recent times. Radford calls him the prop winger. He's always there making meters, busting tackles and putting us on the front foot, and he can finish a try to boot.
Fonua is just a beast, again he lacks lightning pace, but who needs pace when you can just carry someone on your back for 30 meters? Ask Johnstone about that.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"
Fonua is just a beast, again he lacks lightning pace, but who needs pace when you can just carry someone on your back for 30 meters? Ask Johnstone about that.'"
or just tackle round the legs and down he goes. Simples
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"or just tackle round the legs and down he goes. Simples
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Again, tell that to Johnstone.
Oh and you should really be a Superleague coach btw. Incredibly insightful.
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| O'Brien to huddersfield 3 year deal
great scoop for the giants, some were adamant he was going to hull fc
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| Quote ="brearley84"O'Brien to huddersfield 3 year deal
great scoop for the giants, some were adamant he was going to hull fc
will allow hinchcliffe to play his favoured role of loose forward'"
Can't say I'd heard the rumour about him going to Hull, would have made sense I suppose as we don't have too much cover for Houghton. That said Jez Litten looks a prospect, and besides, Houghton's near indestructible.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Can't say I'd heard the rumour about him going to Hull, would have made sense I suppose as we don't have too much cover for Houghton. That said Jez Litten looks a prospect, and besides, Houghton's near indestructible.
It's a good squad signing for Hudds, but not sure it's one that's going to rocket you up the table. If he's going to be first choice 9 then it's a big step up for him, talented as he is.'"
id expect him to interchange with leeming in the hooking role.
we have a good balance coming into the 2017 season now and cover, something we didnt have last season when the injuries happened
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"tom johnstone is one of the hottest properties in sl
i can't see him sticking with wakefield long term and that he will move to one of the bigger / more successful sides within the next couple of seasons'"
So people keep saying but seeing as we put him on a four year deal you'll need a big cheque book and luckily for us he's an honourable bloke so we won't have a Solomona on our hands HTH
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| Quote ="vastman"So people keep saying but seeing as we put him on a four year deal you'll need a big cheque book and luckily for us he's an honourable bloke so we won't have a Solomona on our hands HTH'"
leeds and wakefield have a very good working relationship which has been built up over a number of years and i would imagine if leeds were interested in signing him down the line that a deal could be arranged that suited both parties and that wakefield would rather deal with leeds than any other club
when leeds signed gareth ellis back in 2005 wakefield received a transfer fee plus a guaranteed boxing day fixture with shared gate receipts for an agreed number of years which must make the total package received from wakefield a very good one and far higher than they would have received by selling him to another club for a transfer fee only
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"[uleeds and wakefield have a very good working relationship[/u which has been built up over a number of years and i would imagine if leeds were interested in signing him down the line that a deal could be arranged that suited both parties and that wakefield would rather deal with leeds than any other club
when leeds signed gareth ellis back in 2005 wakefield received a transfer fee plus a guaranteed boxing day fixture with shared gate receipts for an agreed number of years which must make the total package received from wakefield a very good one and far higher than they would have received by selling him to another club for a transfer fee only'"
Aye you got Ailton, but we got McShane
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Oh yes they are.
I admittedly haven't see that much of Johnstone. I've seen his wonder try against Hudds, and a couple of other special efforts, but other than that I've only seen him maybe 9 or 10 times at most, so obviously I'm not the best person to pass judgement. He is lightning quick, pretty elusive, and given his age he should only improve. But at this moment in time he still falls into the one for the future category. Plenty of players have looked just as exciting only to slip into relative obscurity. He's not done anything on the big stage yet either.
Talanoa lacks pace, but he's been a key part in Hull's engine room since he got here, and considering where he was when we picked him up he's got to go down as one of the best signings in recent times. Radford calls him the prop winger. He's always there making meters, busting tackles and putting us on the front foot, and he can finish a try to boot.
Fonua is just a beast, again he lacks lightning pace, but who needs pace when you can just carry someone on your back for 30 meters? Ask Johnstone about that.'"
You can spout whatever platitudes you like I mean we all now know that Hull FC are only staffed by the finest RL players in the world many of them superhuman...dear god one trophy Come on share the toys!
I rarely rave about young players at Trinity mainly because it's been a while since I've seen one at BV - yes some honourable mentions like Ferguson and Westwood (but Warrington really made him) - but the last real one was Ellis, you may know of him.
Ellis was the real deal from the start and when Leeds got him he was already the real deal despite what they claim. The reason I rave about TJ is because he's exactly the same, like a young Ellis all he lacks is a little experience other than that he's already there. He has the desire and the attitude that real winners need and they are easy to spot in RL because there are so few.
Your two winger are fine but if they were really top notch they'd be in the NRL which in IMHO will be TJ's next stop - that is how good I think he is. So sorry but you are wrong.
All I can hope for now is that I haven't put the kiss of death on him and he doesn't have the horrendous luck of my all time favourite Trinity youngster Nigel Wright.
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| That's a fair post vasty.
I wouldn't claim for one second that all our players are brilliant. There's nobody I am desperate to see the back of, but we have our share of average squad filler players like everyone does in a salary capped sport. I do however think we have the best first choice 17 in the league, but we are all biased. Hopefully we will add to our one trophy very soon.
I think Talanoa would be playing NRL still had he not had his illness. I fully expect Fonua to return home at the end of his deal. If he carries on the way he's started his Hull career there will be no shortage of suitors.
The last winger I saw come through who I thought would be a superstar right from his debut was Tom Briscoe. For me Johnstone isn't nearly as good as Briscoe was at that age, and whilst he has so far had a good career by any standards, he hasn't yet hit the heights I expected him to.
Please don't think I'm knocking Johnstone btw, he's one of the most exciting young prospects we have in this country, but that's all he is for now. He's got parts of his game to develop, and he needs to do big things more often on the big stage to really be classed as one of the leagues best.
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| I think that Jodie Broughton, the Catalans flying winger, is better than any of the wingers in the Super League. He is NRL standard. None of the 2017 new acquisitions can compare with him.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"I think that Jodie Broughton, the Catalans flying winger, is better than any of the wingers in the Super League. He is NRL standard. None of the 2017 new acquisitions can compare with him.'"
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| Quote ="atomic"Higson will eat him alive..'"
Who?
Do you mean the fumbling Humphrey Higson?
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| Quote ="atomic"Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"I think that Jodie Broughton, the Catalans flying winger, is better than any of the wingers in the Super League. He is NRL standard. None of the 2017 new acquisitions can compare with him.'" '"
Higson will eat him alive
Higson isn't quick enough to catch JB! Really rated him at Salford and wished we'd have been able to keep him as he scored some phenomenal tries despite a distinct lack of service from his centre partner.
But seeing as you're a Leyther and they generally have massive delusions of grandeur, then yes, Higson is the next Martin Offiah...
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