Totally forget Shaun Briscoe was a Wiganer! So Richie Mathers would get the Yorkshire nod. But Moz if defo from Salford!

Anyway, this is Super League, so why not give them nicknames?

A wiki search referred to Red Dragons and White Boar as nicknames of the two teams? so, Red Dragons v White Boar? Or even something simple that can be marketed? Blues v Reds?

Quote ="Catalancs"Most Wiganers I know class themselves as being from Lancashire not Greater Manchester. I have family from Southport and not one of them considers themself to be from Merseyside. As one of the previous posts said, Merseyside is more like an ego massage for scousers than a real county. www.forl.co.uk'" Spot on .......... I'm a Sandgrounder, Southport born and bred, and I'm Lancastrian through and through. I'd love to see us smash those ***** from over the Pennines.

Quote ="Catalancs"Most Wiganers I know class themselves as being from Lancashire not Greater Manchester. I have family from Southport and not one of them considers themself to be from Merseyside. As one of the previous posts said, Merseyside is more like an ego massage for scousers than a real county. www.forl.co.uk'" Spot on .......... I'm a Sandgrounder, Southport born and bred, and I'm Lancastrian through and through. I'd love to see us smash those ***** from over the Pennines.

Except the fact that you [ido[/i hear Lancashire chants at games (Leigh have at least four of them off the top of my head). Leigh, Wiggin and Salford all have flags with a Lancashire rose on it. I'm 23 and most certainly consider myself to be a Lancastrian rather than a Manc. I'd love a return for the Origin, so long as the clubs and players treated it with respect rather than pulling out with twisted socks and the like, and it was played on a weekend rather than shunted to a midweek inconvenience.

That said, I fear it'd be plagued by the same self-interest by administrators and fans alike that does the international game so much harm, but we can only hope.

This unfortunately is spot on.

So why not go for a Yorkshire V England (rest of) game instead.

You could play the game for the old yorkshire cup every year.

The other option would be not to have it as an origin series but more as a where your olaying series and include overseas players playing SL.

Why don,t they call it West Origin v East Origin with 2 matches on the one day replacing the magic weekend.

1st match West versus East (Under 20's team)
2nd match West versus East ( Full Pro,s)

The England coach can then assess the current crop of superleague players and the younger players coming through the system.

And I would have Roby over Moore in the Lancashire selection.

I live in St.Helens and i was born in Lancashire and always will be a Lancashire lad not a Merseyside one,no way.

I'm 18. I'm from Lancashire.

so did any of you proud Lancastrians go to the recent Yorkshire V Lancashire games?

Also I don't think east v west would inspire the fans, when do you ever hear I'm a proud East:West Englander?

We have too many games in one season as it is without shoe horning a fake fixture in

What recent Lancs v Yorks games?

2003 was the last one I believe.

The Drags v the Bores.


That will catch on

7 years ago....recent? It was at Odsal on a weeknight, wasn't it? Not many Yorkies bothered either.

Play it on a weekend and make it a 'proper' event as part of an England trial and it'll work, I reckon.

When people keep saying it didn't work, I think that needs correcting.

It didn't work for Lancashire. Yorkshire put good sides out and for a long time were undefeated. It needs to be taken seriously by all involved....including clubs, marketing team and people who pay the rewards to players.

I'd pay to see it again.

Seven years ago is hardly recent. Although the last game was a one sided I enjoyed the whole day out and the 2002 games at Headingley and Wigan were crackers.


Yet Lancs won three out of the last four.

Yorkshire were undefeated 1986 to 2000 and have been since 2003!

the crowds were usually better than the current mid-season international
I went to the one at headingley in 2002, fantastic atmosphere and yorkshire would have won if we hadnt picked that useless "stand off" leon pryce

Alistair Campbell look and learn




Great day out that was. Dominic Peters pulling on the red of Lancashire

Mother England XIII

VS

Colonies XIII

AKA - England vs imports but dress it up a wee bit.

Then again it seems a little ridiculous to abandon France and leave them without a big test.

Lancashire are also unbeaten since 2003.

When SL inevitably splits into two conferences you can have an all stars east v west game yankee style. Would certainly be interesting.
York V Lanc would work if a) it was a tenner a ticket ANYWHERE in the ground, first come first served best seats etc and b) a serious international selection game played in say august

In 2001 and 2002 the game got over 10,000 for the crowd so higher than the super league average. That is with no marketing and without the teams taking it seriously.

This idea CAN work. People just need to stop comparing it to SOO.

Quote ="Doseymarker"This unfortunately is spot on. So why not go for a Yorkshire V England (rest of) game instead. You could play the game for the old yorkshire cup every year. The other option would be not to have it as an origin series but more as a where your olaying series and include overseas players playing SL.'" Have you been talking to Andy Wilson? www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/20 ... -of-origin

Quote ="Doseymarker"This unfortunately is spot on. So why not go for a Yorkshire V England (rest of) game instead. You could play the game for the old yorkshire cup every year. The other option would be not to have it as an origin series but more as a where your olaying series and include overseas players playing SL.'" Have you been talking to Andy Wilson? www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/20 ... -of-origin

Lancashire V Yorkshire is perceived as a heartlands game.

When I was watching the Origin game there were numerous references made that the game transcended RL.

There is another rivalry in this country that could be tapped.

We could look at THE North V THE South game.

The northerners would be drawn from players born north of the midlands

The southerers from anywhere south so you can have all the Londoners, south wales, French and all the imports

For example

1 Brent Webb
2 Amos Roberts
3 Matt King
4 Tony Clubb
5 Pat Richards
6 Thomas Bosc
7 Matt Orford
8 Kylie Leuluai
9 Thomas Leuluai
10 Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook
11 Chris Flannery
12 Louis Anderson
13 Greg Eastwood
14 Tony Puletua
15 Setaimata Sa
16 David Ferriol
17 Danny Buderus

And lots more players besides, better than a game against just the imports.

Plenty of opportunity for stereotype PR.

Gives us a chance to try and stage games further south.

& Dont call it Origin.

Ripping bstard! Quote ="Catalancs"Have you been talking to Andy Wilson? www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/20 ... -of-origin'"

Ripping bstard! Quote ="Catalancs"Have you been talking to Andy Wilson? www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/20 ... -of-origin'"

Lancashire get whupped, then they take the bat home!
Now they want the rest of the world to help them out
Pathetic

If everyone bought into it then it could work but I think that is highly unlikely. Also I think that Lancashire V Yorkshire matches are a step backwards for the game and its image as it makes us look very parochial.