Cripes



Do you have any comments on the forum topic?

no one on your forum again.

Do you comment on anything other than topics about Wakey (and usually ones you have started?)

I do not own a forum.

Do you have any comments on the forum topic?

Yes. Do you have something to say about the topic?

Where does the buck stop re winding up orders / too many non UK trained players / becoming groundless?

How do you think having a coach who wanted to go to Catalans will play out?

Do you think Colin sanctuary's conditioning plays any part in the way the team fall apart in the second half of the season?

Would it be better to voluntarily go down to C1 given the finances of the club?

Why are you so bothered?

long live trinity.. the ground might be a dump, but at the smaller grounds you do get a good atmosphere, better than the large concrete stadiums that have no sole/ atmosphere when quarter full..

I do and so do plenty of others, the point I was making as you well know is that as soon as there is anything that can be deemed as remotely negative about Wakey your on here commenting on it and then when people legitimately query what you say you just keep repeating it over and over again.

However I will humour you and taking your points in order :

Unlike you I don't know the full ins and outs of the tax issues, some say the latest was image rights and that other clubs will get hit with the same, I don't know so the only comment I can make is that based on the squad we have assembled for 2011, I would expect us to have cut our cloth accordingly and therefore such issues will hopefully be a thing of the past.

We are looking to reduce our dependency on non UK trained players. The fact we have had so many in the past was something I did not agree with, as was the case with a load of other wakey fans. The franchise system does allow clubs time to bring through their own young players etc. and whilst we have yet to see the benefits, we do have a number of our academy players signed on full time contracts, who along with the young players we have signed from other clubs are likely to get a shot at SL next year.

I have read somewhere that a condition of the ground sale was that we dont have to move out until the new ground is ready and hence why only half the money has been paid across for Belle Vue. Consequently, I presume that if we were playing outside of SL in 2012, that could be at Belle Vue until such time as Newmarket was sorted.

John Kear should have been allowed to leave when the Catalan job was in the offing. It appears clear to me he wanted to go, and we should have let him.

I have questioned whether Colin Sanctuary's methods are suitable for RL last season myself. However, we reached 5th in the league with him at the club in 2009, and I am therefore waiting to see how the teams performances pan out in 2011 before making a final decision. I tend to think that some of last years woeful performances were more a by product of some players stealing a wage and the Kear factor (after everyone knowing he was after leaving).

I doubt the cost of a licence application would be that significant for the club to justify not putting in a further application. The club have earnt the right to be in SL, and stayed there on merit based on on the field performances, which are the main requirement of a sport as far as I am concerned. We should therefore fight for the right to retain our place. The business plan will have to factor everything in re ground sharing and the costs associated with that etc. If at the end of the day its decided that our application is the least compelling, then we will end up demoted (I have to admit I don't fancy our chances at present, but I am not privvy to the full information and will therefore wait and see what the outcome of the shareholder meeting on 4 Jan is)

Where it should do with the chairman.
It might have help us if you had not flashed the cash at our english players ie Snitch,Grix,Brough,teapot and his younger brother
Thank god for Kirklees council and Ken Davey then because Fartown was the dump of all dumps



Its a fact that all coaches move on for one reason or another as I'm sure you are well aware of, and off the top of my head I cant think of a coach that has been at a club longer than he has been at Wakey, if it was not for the greed of the board imo Kear would now be sunning himself in France with a 3 year contract tucked into his swimming trunks which he richly deserved for what he has done in the past for the club, but to answer your mischief making question who knows, once again you might get a pointer from your own club vis a vis Nathan Brown





In a word YES.



That is a bit of a silly question to ask really as we have never been relegated from SL before, without getting on the wrong side of any Hudds fan and god forbid I say anything to upset you personally but you are in a better position than us to answer your own question hth

in answer to your last question it was great for us to actually go down , we were so bad it was a relief to actually win game and get the club on the straight and narrow again

With me being a ST holder for the odd couple of years and you only being a closet Wakey fan I tend to take more of an interest in the club than you do, I'm sorry to burst your bubble dear but as far as me getting there I was on my way back before you decided to see how much embarassment you could cause us on here this time, but as usual little miss know it all about Wakey thinks she has it chapter and verse about us and the fans are clueless. Jeez I bet that mirror in your handbag must be the envy of all mirrors having such a living legend staring into it every other minute and I would not suprise me thats why there is that buzzing in your head all the time

get her some pie and peas, in fact make it two lots on a breadcake

as long as its lamb in the pie.. they love the odd sheep in the western part of hudds lol..lol

Surely no one gets upset by what is posted on a forum like this. Naturally your earlier outburst and 'vitriol' would be deeply immature if genuine. i assume your 'anger' was disingenuous.

As a RL supporter I expect players to move from one club to another so some guys joining the Giants is no real surprise.

We agree re the 'mismanagement' of the club and that Kear's selection of sanctuary is highly questionable.

Your attempt to claim that the IVA was irrelevant showed you to be making comments while ignorant of the rules. I do not think all wakey fans are clueless, your ingorance is your own. Your inability to admit your error is interesting. Your need to continue with childlike insults (and laugh at them) is consistent.

On the subject of Ted's IVA the RFL have leverage that they could use at 'any time that suits them'. Maybe at the shareholders meeting this issue, and others, will be clarified.

Do you have any RL comments? Perhaps your need to think about sheep and western Huddersfield would be better indulged elsewhere.

This thread is about wakey's condition as a club.

Do you think Sir Rodney Walker knew about the changed RFL / SLE rules on clubs entering and leaving administration (a la Crusaders) when he bailed wakey out of their winding up order? The ruling became more apparent after the wakey bail out but at the time of the Crusaders re organisation. This would certainly be unfair re wakey.

I think it was good for Hudds to go down and consolidate but only because they knew Ken Davy would finance the promotion campeign.

Without Kens money do you think it would have been a good thing for Hudds to go down?

If the route back to SL was blocked for at least three years would it have been acceptable for the club to gown?

Would you be happy to go down in the full knoweldge that at the end of the three years should you submit the strongest application for readmittance you might not be accepted because of the geograpical positioning of your club?

I'm beginning to get bored with your refusal to contribute to actual topics, your constant personal vendettas and your strange mysoginistic use of the female gender as an insult. Pack it in.

I was not aware that I was getting upset, I merely answered your questions in a rational manner, there were 6 questions in all, I answered the first 5 honestly and as for the last question as I said as we had not been relegated before unlike yourselves then surely you would have had a better insight than me regarding that, as for vitriol I am a teetotaller, and fwiw I do not feel anger towards you only pity for someone who has for long enough now shown nothing but hatred for our club



As a RL supporter I would also expect movement of players from one club to another, but that is not what you were implying though, your question was aimed at our inability to hold on to some of our best players and having to make do with imported players, but because you have an owner that will throw money at it you buy most of your players from clubs less fortunate than yours like we are and then have the nerve to criticise

I notice that you have failed to comment on my reply to your question on how Kears failure to land a move to Catalans will play out, its a strange one that.



You are pushing against an open door here,I could not agree with you more, I am quite sure that there are other things we would agree on regarding Wakey as well.

I have never claimed that Ted,s IVA was irrelevant what I said was it had nothing to do with the club directly, that was the comment I made which was then twisted round to suit your argument, you might not like it or believe it but its common knowledge regarding the RFL and its ruling on chairmen in an IVA so why do you persist that I am in ignorance of it when in one of your earlier posts you conceded and I quote "eventually you are getting there". If there is any clarification on any matters at the shareholders meeting I will let you know then you can be the first to let everyone know hth, sorry about the insult but I just assumed that your deafness to what was being said was due to the constant buzzing in your ears.

Apart from Justin Morgan for one obviously.

We agree on many of the facts pertaining to wakey's dreadful state. One possible solution is to cut the nonsense and voluntarily take the drop. With your hardcore support and a small economical ground you would have a very good chance of operating full cap and balancing the books. Not a perfect option but feasible.

Sorry for misleading you squire, you [uobviously[/u assumed we were talking rugby league clubs in general, when I was in fact refering to just Sl clubs, which unless I am mistaken and will apologise in advance rules out Mr Morgan who has only coached you in SL for four years iirc.