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| Quote ="little wayne69"For someone who supposedly have facts on these accusations you make, you seem to be doing a lot of guessing, I'm sure the government have made mistakes just like the rest of the worlds governing bodies have, but now is not the time for recriminations, why not try and get behind them for once and play the blame game when it's all over.'"
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| Quote ="Willzay"I think now when people are dying is the time to hold the Government to account. Be a pointless otherwise when the population has been decimated to their favour.'"
That statement is quite bizarre so you telling us the virus is selective now to political parties
I thought the 5G rumour was bad enough but this is just crazy
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| It’s not out of the realms of possibility that the Government may have been purposefully slow in “locking down” the country compared to others in order for the virus to cull the population.
Why else would they keep airports open for weeks after the virus spread to Italy with no checks or immediate self isolation?
I have also yet to see the country in official lockdown - I have not see that word used by any Government official.
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| The Government’s handling of this pandemic has been so tragically pathetic that it’s bordering on suspicious.
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| Quote ="Willzay"It’s not out of the realms of possibility that the Government may have been purposefully slow in “locking down” the country compared to others in order for the virus to cull the population.
Why else would they keep airports open for weeks after the virus spread to Italy with no checks or immediate self isolation?
I have also yet to see the country in official lockdown - I have not see that word used by any Government official.'"
You even mention that the Govt have slowed lockdown down!
You are out to lunch.
Go and lay down in a dark room for a few weeks.
Your posts on this subject are as bad as BOJ042's are on anything else.
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| It took us what three weeks after Italy to “lockdown”. If that’s not being slow I don’t know what is.
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| Quote ="Willzay"It took us what three weeks after Italy to “lockdown”. If that’s not being slow I don’t know what is.'"
It's an understanding that people will only put up with being in lockdown for so long, so delaying the start of it meant that when the peak started to hit that (most) people were prepared to adhere to the rules.
Two weeks into lockdown there was very little traffic on the roads by us, when we went out for our daily walk we could have walked down the main road without risking encountering traffic. Two weeks later and every day that I go out for a walk, or a bike ride there is more traffic back on the roads, which inevitably means more people flaunting the rules on lockdown.
Start lockdown 3 weeks earlier and just imagine how many people would now be making that decision to venture back out again. It's human nature to not want to be restrained in our activities. Ask yourself how desperate were you to get out of the house after 1 week, after 3 weeks, how desperate will you be in another 3 weeks time????
I'm not backing the Government on their decisions but I do understand them.
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| Quote ="Fordy"It's an understanding that people will only put up with being in lockdown for so long, so delaying the start of it meant that when the peak started to hit that (most) people were prepared to adhere to the rules.
Two weeks into lockdown there was very little traffic on the roads by us, when we went out for our daily walk we could have walked down the main road without risking encountering traffic. Two weeks later and every day that I go out for a walk, or a bike ride there is more traffic back on the roads, which inevitably means more people flaunting the rules on lockdown.
Start lockdown 3 weeks earlier and just imagine how many people would now be making that decision to venture back out again. It's human nature to not want to be restrained in our activities. Ask yourself how desperate were you to get out of the house after 1 week, after 3 weeks, how desperate will you be in another 3 weeks time????
I must admit there does seem to be a lot more traffic on the roads but where are they going? I go to Normy Asda once a week for shopping, three weeks since the queue was half way round the car park, went yesterday at a similar time and just walked straight in. Unless people are driving to the larger supermarkets ?
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| ITS NOT A LOCK DOWN
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| It's interesting that Sweden have taken a completely different approach to most of the rest of the world and their experts believe that it is we (the UK and most of the rest) that have got this wrong.
Although their death rate is a little higher, they suggest that it will actually fall over time, whereas we may have a second "spike" when restrictions begin to lift.
They do have some social distancing and advise vulnerable people to stay indoors but, they are still working, able to go out shopping or for a meal etc. Plus, they wont have decades of austerity and /or tax rises when the virus eventually is under control.
I dont know if they are right but, they certainly think they are.
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| Father in law last away this morning what looked like he had turned around ended up taking him in end,
please please still take this seriously we can get through this
Keep safe all
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| Quote ="snowie"Father in law last away this morning what looked like he had turned around ended up taking him in end,
please please still take this seriously we can get through this
Keep safe all'"
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| Quote ="snowie"Father in law last away this morning what looked like he had turned around ended up taking him in end,
please please still take this seriously we can get through this
Keep safe all'"
Condolences same boat for us funeral next Monday had to wait 3 weeks.
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| Quote ="snowie"Father in law last away this morning what looked like he had turned around ended up taking him in end,
please please still take this seriously we can get through this
Keep safe all'"
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| Sad news Snowie and RWaB. Really sorry it turned out that way.
I feel like people are being a bit desensitised the news now but comments like yours brings it home again. It's a rel threat and we need to take care and follow the guidelines.
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| Condolences to Snowie and RWaB - very sad.
I came to work this morning to find that one of my team - a young lad of only 24 - had taken his own life over the w/e; I'm devastated, for him and his family and the people around him. Perhaps the emotional cost of this situation will only reveal itself in the months and years that follow - but for now, if you know someone who is emotionally fragile, maybe check that they're ok. They might not be.
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| Sorry to hear Snowie mate and you as well RWAB, condolences to all.
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| A friends mother passed away with the virus 3 weeks ago. Devastating for families left behind.
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| Sorry to hear your news Snowie and RWB and it must be a little more difficult with social distancing etc.
Condolences to you and your family.
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| Over 30000 now died. Highest figure in Europe and second to the united states.
Its a total disgrace
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Over 30000 now died. Highest figure in Europe and second to the united states.
Its a total disgrace'"
Well it appears so but at least the UK is recording deaths in all settings and where Corona is suspected other countries are not doing that yet and it will take time for them to catch up.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Well it appears so but at least the UK is recording deaths in all settings and where Corona is suspected other countries are not doing that yet and it will take time for them to catch up.'"
True RWB.
Also, noticed that Russia apparently have just over 1100 deaths - less than 1% of those diagnosed.... Seems rather low when you compare other countries - I'm sure that now our figures are correct and must doubt that other countries are.
However, any death from this awful virus is one too many.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Over 30000 now died. Highest figure in Europe and second to the united states.
Its a total disgrace'"
Expect that to rise to around 40k, with the amount of cases percentage wise we have around 15% of deaths so far it's horrifying
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| What I can’t get my head around is we are an island, how the hell can we have a massively higher fatality rate than an European land locked country, we must have got it wrong big style somewhere along the line.
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| It is a disgrace Lampyboy, so why not stop buying from China. They are the disgrace that caused it. I'm sure Corbyn and Abbott would have been sensational in response of the crisis. It's not perfect but at least Donald Trump isn't involved.
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