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| Quote ="craigizzard"Australia seem to be prepared for Sam Tomkins's left foot step every time he gets the ball. I wonder how they worked that one out?'"
It's this new thing we haven't quite got to grips with yet... A game plan!
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| For the sake of our once Great Nation, I hope to god we beat PNG next week our I fear our country may implode if it's a loss....
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| Australia look very ordinary tbh.
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| Quote ="dan1978uk"For the sake of our once Great Nation, I hope to god we beat PNG next week our I fear our country may implode if it's a loss....'"
Like anyone would even notice.
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| Genuine question: is there another decent sport that lets referees ref their own countries matches at international level?
I'm sure it's not allowed in Football and RU.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"How come no-one is having a go at the boy wonder (ST) for doing nothing ?? thought he was supposed to take the Kiwis/Aussies on single handedly and i have yet to see anything even remotely worth of class from him - is it a case of SKY bigging him up too much before he's ready too'"
Tomkins is the best player we have produced in a long time. Cant do it all by himself.
The Giants can only dream of producing a player with 1/100th the ability he has
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| That was the first time I noticed O'Loughlin on the pitch!
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Tomkins has been a damn sight worse than Widdop was last week......will he be dropped?'"
As if !! he's our golden boy ----- the other 16 are not upto playing in the same team as him , he cant be bad he's Sam Tomkins!!
Even if he drops the ball he does it miles better than the others
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| Quote ="Shmoo"Genuine question: is there another decent sport that lets referees ref their own countries matches at international level?
I'm sure it's not allowed in Football and RU.'"
I'm pretty sure it happens in RU occasionally.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Australia look very ordinary tbh.'"
They are.
I'd take positives from that game.
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| 1st real high kick causes trouble, Shame it was the 78th minute.....
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Tomkins has been a damn sight worse than Widdop was last week......will he be dropped?'"
I think there have been a few players missing. It's easy to slate those trying to do something but there have been several who have not made themselves available for the ball.
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| I know its not the done thing to praise England at all, but how many breaks have Australia made? They have hardly ripped us to shreds. I think the defence has coped OK overall.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"I'm pretty sure it happens in RU occasionally.'"
No mate. All the international RU matches are refereed by neutral officials.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Australia look very ordinary tbh.'"
Agreed and thought the same last week. It's the Kiwis 4 nations to win IMO.
Also on that front instead of looking at what we can learn from Aus we should look to how incredibly well NZ have developed in the last 5/10 years. Aus will always lead the way but if NZ can close the gap why can't we?
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| So without the three video ref decisions we'd be two points behind now and that's without Lunt's "ref's call" try. Appalling officiating that's completely ruined this game.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Australia look very ordinary tbh.'"
I thought they were impressively error-free in the first half, when they needed to be. Their foot's off the gas now, and they're coughing the ball up for fun. They'll also be unhappy with slack defence for both England's tries.
I'd favour New Zealand to beat them though.
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"No mate. All the international RU matches are refereed by neutral officials.'"
I see - maybe I'm thinking of Heineken Cup?
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| I'd say if you took Billy Slater and Darren Lockyer out of this Aussie side it would be the weakest ever seen. To put it into perspective they've easily beaten us despite having Greg Inglis, Jarrod Hayne and co missing. They didn't even pick Jamie Lyon as far as I know.
Shows how truly enormous the gap still is. It widens every year.
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| No Greg Inglis, no Johnathan Thurston, no Jarryd Hayne and lets be honest australia have not had to go through the gears in this match. They have played well within themselves!
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| The main problem with refereeing is the lack of top quality officals in the game at all, therefore theres nothing you can do about Refs refereeing their own country.
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| They didnt win it, we lost it, cliche I know but true for me
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| Quote ="kobashi"No Greg Inglis, no Johnathan Thurston, no Jarryd Hayne and lets be honest australia have not had to go through the gears in this match. They have played well within themselves!'"
TBF we've had no Eastmond, no Sinfield, no Peacock and no Morley. ATEOTD the team haven't let themselves down and don't deserve slating on here.
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| The real period of domination (when they score the lion's share of their points) can after the award of the try that shouldn't have been given by the Aussie ref.
If that had been a no try, the game would have been competitive.
Lunt's try was also 50-50.
The players know we don't get anything from Aussie refs, so why is this farce allowed to continue.
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| Oh no, Sam Burgess has a bit of an Aussie twang in his voice.....
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