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| Quote ="snowie"And your is a empty soulless shell
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"Should build and share a stadium with Wakey. Simple.
Both grounds are dumps with Wakeys the bigger dump.'"
If it's so simple maybe you could
1 say where it will be built, and, probably most importantly,
2 how it will be funded?
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"If it's so simple maybe you could
1 say where it will be built, and, probably most importantly,
2 how it will be funded?'"
If they said to both clubs build a new stadium or lose your Super League status I'm pretty sure they would find the right location and funding
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"If they said to both clubs build a new stadium or lose your Super League status I'm pretty sure they would find the right location and funding'"
You still haven’t said where to build it, and how to fund building a shared stadium.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"You still haven’t said where to build it, and how to fund building a shared stadium.'"
We could always share with Sheffield and agree to play half of our games there, like Hudd-Sheff did aftef Huddersfield "conned" the Eagles out of their place in SL
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"If they said to both clubs build a new stadium or lose your Super League status I'm pretty sure they would find the right location and funding'"
It's to be hoped Huddersfield town don't booted out of the stadium as you've got nothing then
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"It has and was costing a fortune in rent to 88M and before that bank of Ireland & that's why we managed to get the stadium and the land that surrounds it into the Clubs ownership, so we can develop it and start earning money out of the place, more than the 14 home games or whatever it is.
Carter's brought in a new Director/owner to deal totally with getting Belle Vue redeveloped in sections. The first sectionto be done, as you hint at is the bigger east stand that runs from Donny Road, then the full length of the pitch and beyond., The old stand plus where the Superbowl and car park used to beis giving is the size we need to turn it into something worthy of the City and RL. Where apart from beating seating etc, there's going to be much improved corporate, bars and restaurants,, gym as well I think, as well other things like class rooms etc. According to a recent interviews with said director, planning permission is just about ready to go in, probably after Christmas for that stage of the development, it could have been sooner but apparently things like Brexit and then a GE has taken priority.Because it will be done in stages we won't be moving out, & it will start hopefully at the end of this next season and then the rest in off seasons in the future.
Also those artists impression were done by a company that owned the stadium before we did called 88M, that were trying to get in on the act, where they were going to build a stadium plus, student accommodation and others shops. Nothing to do with Trinity. Just like Newmarkets architects drawings that got planning permission for and also rubber stamped down in Westminster, contrary to what that complete WUM rolling turd says, that's another set of proposed pictures nothing to do with Trinity, just those using the club to get there fingers on about a 100m pounds of green belt land.
The WUM knows he's talking crap because he's done it all before and been proved wrong that somehow Trinity keep making stores up and keep having pictures drawn up just to fool everyone. I mean seriously what kind of plonker would even suggest such a thing, simply because it's so bizarre and secondly it's all so easy to prove wrong. I mean we've had not that long ago a number of back and fourths between the Council and the Club about the Newmarket project, I suppose that dude thinks it was fake news orchestrated by Trinity for some reason.'"
I Assume your name calling is aimed at me.
You have nothing decent to come back with so resorts to that.
Fact wakey has no new ground and are unlikely to get one in the next 10 years, sham slum of a club who offer nothing other than “tradition”
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"I Assume your name calling is aimed at me.
You have nothing decent to come back with so resorts to that.
Fact wakey has no new ground and are unlikely to get one in the next 10 years, sham slum of a club who offer nothing other than “tradition”'"
Notwithsatanding the state of the ground which is desperate for improvement but, is now owned by the club (albeit with a hefty mortgage), perhaps you can explain "sham slum of a club"
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"Should build and share a stadium with Wakey. Simple.
Both grounds are dumps with Wakeys the bigger dump.'"
Talking of dumps, by the way your talking you wouldn't have been born when your club played at the illustrious fartown, talk about luck, you manage to play in a decent ground on the back of town getting a new ground, not to mention robbing the eagles of their rightful place in SL so that the worst club in SL with no money and no future could secure theirs, I'd keep me gob shut if I was you youth and less of the
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"Should build and share a stadium with Wakey. Simple.
Both grounds are dumps with Wakeys the bigger dump.'"
Have you not got any shoddy clickbait articles to unnecessarily post?
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| Personally this thread should be locked. All it’s doing it’s raking up old ground and not for constructive purposes.
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| I don't think anyone is more annoyed about the situation at Cas than the supporters themselves. It's us who have to put up with such awful facilities. The club are sleepwalking into losing our SL status if (when?) the RFL decide to reintroduce any kind of licensing or stadium criteria. The board would only have themselves to blame for neglecting the present and spending too much time making excuses based on a future that might not even exist.
The condition of Wheldon Road is inexcusable.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"I don't think anyone is more annoyed about the situation at Cas than the supporters themselves. It's us who have to put up with such awful facilities. The club are sleepwalking into losing our SL status if (when?) the RFL decide to reintroduce any kind of licensing or stadium criteria. The board would only have themselves to blame for neglecting the present and spending too much time making excuses based on a future that might not even exist.
The condition of Wheldon Road is inexcusable.'"
Although you may be right, it's difficult for Castleford (and Wakefield) to make plans for their ground when they are expecting something to happen with a development that has full PP already passed - how many new grounds is it reasonable for any one club to pursue at the same time.
I know the situations with Castleford and Wakefield are very different but BOTH clubs understood that things were happening at Glasshoughton and Newmarket respectively.
Yes, in both cases, there should perhaps have been things done in the past but, for people to suggest that either club has sat on their booty and done nothing is just wrong and some should count their lucky stars that they are not under the control of WMDC.
As for the Fart's fan on here - can you imagine where he would be watching his RL, if, it were not for being tied in with Huddersfield Town FC and benefitting from their groundshare ??
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Although you may be right, it's difficult for Castleford (and Wakefield) to make plans for their ground when they are expecting something to happen with a development that has full PP already passed - how many new grounds is it reasonable for any one club to pursue at the same time.
I know the situations with Castleford and Wakefield are very different but BOTH clubs understood that things were happening at Glasshoughton and Newmarket respectively.
Yes, in both cases, there should perhaps have been things done in the past but, for people to suggest that either club has sat on their booty and done nothing is just wrong and some should count their lucky stars that they are not under the control of WMDC.
As for the Fart's fan on here - can you imagine where he would be watching his RL, if, it were not for being tied in with Huddersfield Town FC and benefitting from their groundshare ??'"
All correct but I doubt it will cut much slack with the flat earthers on here.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I know the situations with Castleford and Wakefield are very different but BOTH clubs understood that things were happening at Glasshoughton and Newmarket respectively.'"
Bit like Boris and his new hospitals.
Take your point though. Wakey seem to at least know where they stand now and can move forwards whereas it's less clear cut for Cas. They'll look bloody daft if they spend a mint re-doing Wheldon Road only for the development to kick in. At the same time, the cost of that re-vamp will continue to climb the longer they put it off. As another poster said, there but for the grace of god...
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Notwithsatanding the state of the ground which is desperate for improvement but, is now owned by the club (albeit with a hefty mortgage), perhaps you can explain "sham slum of a club"
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My qoute was aimed at the previous posters childish name calling. I should gave not lowered myself to their level and raje vack my comments.
Wakefield have made great strides in the last few years and hope fully will continue to do so.
I created this thread for sensible debate will sensible posters like yourself
Back on topic both clubs not done enough to make things Happen themselves both relied too much on promises from investers with outside ulterior motives.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"I Assume your name calling is aimed at me.
You have nothing decent to come back with so resorts to that.
Fact wakey has no new ground and are unlikely to get one in the next 10 years, sham slum of a club who offer nothing other than “tradition”'"
You've got some front haven't you, and no I shouldn't have lowered myself to your predictable level but you've done your usual anti Trinity WUM posts and yet you think you should be taken seriously, gtfo. Fact is, I've just totally taken your so called facts apart and shown them up for what they are . LOL at you trying to take the moral high ground , If you want to act like a WUM I'll treat you like one.
I've supposedly nothing decent to come back with, dude I've completely destroyed your immature ramblings.
Talking about Quote the smoke and mirrors of Cas and Wakey during the franchise era was so transparent'" absolute rubbish and you know it.
Quote been for nearly 20 years now producing grand schemes artists impressions etc of stadiums that have never materialised, yes that have. '" again proved wrong and just more proof f what you are
Quote I am not kicking out at clubs, but have presented hard facts'" . What hard facts? apart from we've got no new stadium atm, That's the only thing you've got right.
Your last sentence tells everyone what you're about.
Yeah of course this was created for sensible debate Other people were putting you right long before I showed up but you just wasn't having it, it's all been a big conspiracy hey.. According to you we've been doing our own drawings to fool the RFL and it's all smoke and mirrors, things like Thornes Park and Newmarket.
Even when your trying to look as though you care, you can't help yourself but have a dig Quote Back on topic both clubs not done enough to make things Happen themselves both relied too much on promises from investers with outside ulterior motives.'" Name all the SL Clubs that have had new Stadfiums built without massive help, either from the Council, or being attached to a development, or Council building it/ lending money, or moving into local Football stadium? By the way does the local Council count as an investor with alternative motives.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"My qoute was aimed at the previous posters childish name calling. I should gave not lowered myself to their level and raje vack my comments.
Wakefield have made great strides in the last few years and hope fully will continue to do so.
I created this thread for sensible debate will sensible posters like yourself
Back on topic both clubs not done enough to make things Happen themselves both relied too much on promises from investers with outside ulterior motives.'"
That's what you'd like all to think but we know better
That erection of yours still there is it since last season now you've got a super duper stadium
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"The RFL/SL stopped clubs upgrading their stadiums???? Do you mean MADE? As usual, the clubs themselves chose to spend their money on players rather than infrastructure.'"
Actually, I meant what I typed. How many hundreds of thousands have been wasted on planning and drawings, feasibility studies etc, all driven by the requirements that were set and never enforced by the RFL/SL?
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| Quote ="AXE2GRIND"Actually, I meant what I typed. How many hundreds of thousands have been wasted on planning and drawings, feasibility studies etc, all driven by the requirements that were set and never enforced by the RFL/SL?'"
So 'didn't make them' rather than 'stopped them' - big difference. As for feasibility/drawings/planning I doubt either has spent much, if anything; it's all been done by their partners.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"You've got some front haven't you, and no I shouldn't have lowered myself to your predictable level but you've done your usual anti Trinity WUM posts and yet you think you should be taken seriously, gtfo. Fact is, I've just totally taken your so called facts apart and shown them up for what they are . LOL at you trying to take the moral high ground , If you want to act like a WUM I'll treat you like one.
I've supposedly nothing decent to come back with, dude I've completely destroyed your immature ramblings.
Talking about absolute rubbish and you know it.
again proved wrong and just more proof f what you are
. What hard facts? apart from we've got no new stadium atm, That's the only thing you've got right.
Your last sentence tells everyone what you're about.
Yeah of course this was created for sensible debate
Other people were putting you right long before I showed up but you just wasn't having it, it's all been a big conspiracy hey.. According to you we've been doing our own drawings to fool the RFL and it's all smoke and mirrors, things like Thornes Park and Newmarket.
Even when your trying to look as though you care, you can't help yourself but have a digName all the SL Clubs that have had new Stadfiums built without massive help, either from the Council, or being attached to a development, or Council building it/ lending money, or moving into local Football stadium? By the way does the local Council count as an investor with alternative motives.
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Can you please clarify what a WUM is as I have no idea, go on spell it out. And as for destroying my ramblings, not really your the one ramblin and name calling and crying over your keyboard because you know I am right, You have offered nothing other than bitter salty tears.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Can you please clarify what a WUM is as I have no idea, go on spell it out. '"
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I believe the issue is that there's a collective of Trolls (or possibly one with multiple personality disorder) who will frequently target Wakefield as an example of the type of club that we should jettison and replace with {INSERT FAR AWAY CITY HERE}.
Whilst I don't share the opinion you are one of these "collective", calling BV a slum is hardly going to endear you to Wakey Fans. Yes, it's not ideal, but unlike Warrington, I don't see Wakefield doubling their gates if they had a new stadium, so I see the benefit of repairing what they've got, which is apparently their plan
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| Quote ="AXE2GRIND"Wind Up Merchant
I believe the issue is that there's a collective of Trolls (or possibly one with multiple personality disorder) who will frequently target Wakefield as an example of the type of club that we should jettison and replace with {INSERT FAR AWAY CITY HERE}.
Whilst I don't share the opinion you are one of these "collective", calling BV a slum is hardly going to endear you to Wakey Fans. Yes, it's not ideal, but unlike Warrington, I don't see Wakefield doubling their gates if they had a new stadium, so I see the benefit of repairing what they've got, which is apparently their plan'"
mmm don't recall calling bell vue a slum, and even if i did its not far off it is without a doubt the worst ground in super league and not far off the whole RL, think this says more about the touchy chip on the shoulder paranoid minds of some Wakefield fans than about anything else, i get there frustrations at lack of progress on stadium by the club and council, but the all start crying and carrying on when people point it out.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"mmm don't recall calling bell vue a slum, and even if i did its not far off it is without a doubt the worst ground in super league and not far off the whole RL, think this says more about the touchy chip on the shoulder paranoid minds of some Wakefield fans than about anything else, i get there frustrations at lack of progress on stadium by the club and council, but the all start crying and carrying on when people point it out.'"
Are you suffering from amnesia "sham, slum of a club" were the words that YOU used, although you have since deleted that part of the post.
No paranoid chips here but, you were on the wind up although, in Boris Johnson style, you now seem to be suffering from selective amnesia and have tried to alter the historical fact.
I will ask again, just how many developments a club should be working on at any particular point in time, especially when plans for said stadium have already been passed- now, jog on back to Headingley, where, despite the millions spent, your club still provides 2nd class facilities for visiting fans.
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