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| It shouldn't have gone down to the last minute.
Sinfield missed 3 penalty kicks and normally he would kick them all.
Whether it was in the last minute, or the first, leeds scored a try and wigan didn't, you can't really argue with that.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Which makes it flukey that it occured next to the tryline, in the last minute.
It definitely means it was not Lee Smith's genius.'"
You're in cloud cuckoo land to claim the try was flukey. Jordan tansey, millenium magic is flukey. Lee smiths try was a combination of try scoring instinct and a tired wigan defence.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"It was a good try, even if it was a flukey one. But to call it a genius piece of play is ridiculous.
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It wasn't genius, but it wasn't flukey either, you're showing yourself up there by claiming that.
Smith beat 3 players to ground the ball, when he received the ball from sinfield there wasn't much on. Yet, with 1 minute to go, in a tryless game up to that point, in a knockout game, msith made it something to score the winning try.
I'm a bit bewildered by you reaction to that play from smith.
I can only assume, as a bradford fan, you were sitting there with 2 minutes to go and rather warming to the propspect of leeds going out of the cup, but then up steps smith, and right royally cheeses you off. Understandably so, but let's not talk rubbish by claiming a good try was a fluke.
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| Yup. Lots of needless bitterness on this thread. Everyone thought Leeds weren't up to it this year and that the new breed, the 'New Wigan' were going to join Warrington in rearranging the glory this year.
Doesn't look so likely now.
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| cant see leeds beating warrington or st helens to be quite honest
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| Quote ="They Call Me Trinity"cant see leeds beating warrington or st helens to be quite honest'"
Leeds beat warrington just 2 weeks ago.
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| and wakefield beat leeds just 2 months ago
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Yup. Lots of needless bitterness on this thread. Everyone thought Leeds weren't up to it this year and that the new breed, the 'New Wigan' were going to join Warrington in rearranging the glory this year.
Doesn't look so likely now.'"
Yup. A few people were quick to write leeds off this year.
But the fact is that despite aa poor start to the season, and an indifferent first half of the season, leeds are in the semis of the cc and closing in on 4th place in the league (when many suggesting they may struggle to make the playffs).
Not too shabby.
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| Quote ="They Call Me Trinity"and wakefield beat leeds just 2 months ago
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Good for you.
But you said leeds couldn't beat warrington.
We beat them 2 weeks ago.
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| Thats right I cant see Leeds progressing any further in the cup if they get Saints or Warrington in the next round
2 weeks ago has nothing to do with the challenge cup semi final
well done today though it was in the bag for Wigan right till the last seconds
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| Quote ="They Call Me Trinity"Thats right I cant see Leeds progressing any further in the cup if they get Saints or Warrington in the next round
2 weeks ago has nothing to do with the challenge cup semi final
well done today though it was in the bag for Wigan right till the last seconds'"
Theres a big gap between now and the semi final. Leeds are just starting to gain in confidence and form. The last 3 weeks have been huge. You're entitled to your opinion I just think it's foolish to form an opinion on games so far away.
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| This thread is Epic Win.
That is all.
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| Quote ="They Call Me Trinity"Thats right I cant see Leeds progressing any further in the cup if they get Saints or Warrington in the next round
2 weeks ago has nothing to do with the challenge cup semi final
well done today though it was in the bag for Wigan right till the last seconds'"
That is a big call. It has to happen sometime I guess, but when was the last time Warrington won a big match against a big team?
Leeds away in the playoffs a few years back I guess?
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"It was the only try in the game - defences had been solid for 79 minutes. It wasn't an exceptional piece of play, it was a poor missed tackle (the first one) by Wigan.
Also there were only around 10 missed tackles for Wigan, and one of them occurs in front of the tryline with 30 seconds on the clock.
I'm not denying it was a good effort by Leeds in the last 5 minutes, but Wigan were the better team and Leeds won through a flukey piece of play.'"
Bitter?
Much?
ALOT of people in this thread have said leeds are lucky. But they do that to teams too often for it to be down to luck.
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| despite the fact we beat warrington a few weeks back, and beat them well?
both are good sides but there are nothing to choose between them and leeds in a one off game.
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| Leeds have proved a class act in one off games in the past 3 years. Its the consistency of proving it week in week out were they stuggle. They could well win the Challenge Cup and playoffs but they're not gonna win the league.
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| Gleeson missed an easy tackle. Simple as that. It's exactly the sort of howler I've been used to over the years watching GB throw games in the last few minutes against Oz. Lack of will power.
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| Quote ="Dougy"Leeds have proved a class act in one off games in the past 3 years. Its the consistency of proving it week in week out were they stuggle. They could well win the Challenge Cup and playoffs but they're not gonna win the league.'"
indeed, having won the LLS last season, and finished second by 1 point in both of the two seasons before, 3rd the season before that, 2nd the season before that, and winning the league with a record points total, by a record margin, with a record points difference the season before that.
Leeds have definitely struggled in the league
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| watched the last 20 good finish.
to improve the coverage for viewers from outside england, subtitles would help
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Woohoo.
Oh well will have to console myself with this.
=#BF00001 Wigan 15 13 0 2 506 236 26
2 Warrington 15 11 0 4 486 228 22
3 St Helens 15 11 0 4 518 282 22
4 Hull 15 9 0 6 334 305 18
5 Leeds 15 8 1 6 386 312 17
6 Bradford 15 8 1 6 278 276 17
7 Huddersfield 15 8 0 7 374 250 16
8 Wakefield 15 7 0 8 318 345 14
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10 Castleford 15 5 0 10 306 412 10
11 Crusaders 14 5 0 9 239 383 10
12 Salford 15 5 0 10 237 411 10
13 Harlequins 14 4 0 10 237 443 8
14 Catalans Dragons 15 2 0 13 194 442 4
Not even top in your own city.
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| Tough game that. Slightly bizarre OTT stuff about luck though.
Wigan are undoubtedly a hard team to beat, which is good to see. When everyone has the benefit of a bit more hindsight, it should be good news for all that Wigan look like being genuine title contenders. I know they've been narrowly KOd in playoffs in recent years but they look more like the real deal this year.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"That was lucky, yes.
It's Wigan's own fault they lost - they shouldn't have missed that tackle. I'm not blaming the referee or saying Leeds cheated. My argument is reasonable - Leeds last try was lucky.'"
PMSL
But it's not Leeds "fault" by not missing tackles & keeping Wigan tryless.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Tough game that. Slightly bizarre OTT stuff about luck though.
Wigan are undoubtedly a hard team to beat, which is good to see. '"
Agreed, however after initially thinking Wigan had victory snatched from them at the death, i realised that Sinfield had infact had a poor day with the boot. Most weeks Leeds would have been 2 points ahead rather than behind.
So my conclusion now is that in fact it was a pretty poor game by those teams' high standards. Neither of them coped particulary well with the conditions.
I don't think we can judge too much from this game, tbh.
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