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Maybe so but we still had Lesley Vainikolo and Shontayne Hape playing for England...
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The game is a joke. Disgrace Disragce Disgrace. No other words to describe it!!!
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| Quote ="Fully"Maybe so but we still had Lesley Vainikolo and Shontayne Hape playing for England...'"
Because they hadnt played for an international team in union. The point is, if you have played for a country at union, you then cant swap.
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We're week in the centres. Why not push Ellis into centre if we're strong at second row?
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No doubt Manu is a quality player but seriously? Id take Ablett over him any day,
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Whatever next - [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jennings_(rugby_league)Michael Jennings for Tonga...or should that be Australia?[/url
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| Quote ="ExiledWool"Whatever next - [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jennings_(rugby_league)Michael Jennings for Tonga...or should that be Australia?[/url'"
Difference is Jennings is an Aussie and he's World Class. |
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Difference is Jennings is an Aussie and he's World Class.'"
But he played for Tonga - presumably for the sake of experience. RL's international set-up has been shocking for years and doesn't look like it's going to improve anytime soon. |
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| Quote ="ExiledWool"But he played for Tonga - presumably for the sake of experience. RL's international set-up has been shocking for years and doesn't look like it's going to improve anytime soon.'"
Same as Jarryd Hayne playing for Fiji.
Hes an Aussie.
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Same as Jarryd Hayne playing for Fiji.
Hes an Aussie.
But at least he has a link to Fiji through his family.'"
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| I am stunned that Manu has been selected for this squad, whereas the likes of JJB and Carl Ablett (and I'm sure theres other decent English backrowers at other clubs, its just as a Leeds fan those were the first two that came into my head) are overlooked.
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| Quote ="A-Fire-Inside"I am stunned that Manu has been selected for this squad, whereas the likes of JJB and Carl Ablett (and I'm sure theres other decent English backrowers at other clubs, its just as a Leeds fan those were the first two that came into my head) are overlooked.
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JJB should be nowhere near but Ablett is the best back row forward at Leeds. His all round game is awesome. |
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Same as Jarryd Hayne playing for Fiji.
Hes an Aussie.
But at least he has a link to Fiji through his family.'"
So he should never have played for Fiji if a green and gold jersey was his target. I can't say I agree at all with jumping from one country to another. |
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Interesting Stat for those who dont rate Manu or dont think he brings something different to the back row position...
Tackle Busts This Season
1 Willie Manu - 86
2 Rangi Chase - 75
3 Sam Tomkins - 73
4 Leon Pryce - 67
5 Stuart Fielden - 65
6 Matt King - 65
7 Pat Richards - 63
8 Ryan Hall - 63
9 James Roby - 62
10 Peter Fox - 62
11 Ryan Atkins - 56
12 Kyle Eastmond - 56
13 Jason Demetriou - 55
14 Epalahame Lauaki - 51
15 Jordan Tansey - 50
16 Joel Tomkins - 50 - The nearest English back rower.
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"I think whats important to remember here is that the England national team are not world beaters with hundreds upon hundreds of rising young players all knocking on the coaches door begging to be given a game.
This guy wont be any worse than the players you have already.
Who knows.. he might even turn out to be better'"
Maybe we are'nt world beaters but we do have sufuit of class back rowers, in fact, WE have the best back row inthe world!
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The worst decision made with regards to England was installing that berk McNamara as head coach. What were the RFL thinking?
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He's not English. Surely that should be the end of it.
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How embarrassing.
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Whether he is good enough or not doesn't matter. He's already played international RL for Tonga. So therefore he shouldn't be allowed to jump ship.
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| Quote ="Money Mayweather"Whether he is good enough or not doesn't matter. He's already played international RL for Tonga. So therefore he shouldn't be allowed to jump ship.'"
I agree, although I think he is good enough and would provide much better impact than most of the England second-rowers he's not English and that should be the end of it.
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| Quote ="Saint_Marc"Because they hadnt played for an international team in union. The point is, if you have played for a country at union, you then cant swap.
International RL is a joke at times.'"
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"Troll alert.
'" He's right though. RL doesn't even have an international federation. |
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Just like England allegedly had the best pack in the whole world in the World cup hey
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Without wishing to get into an argument about who is best, forwards aren't our problem. Big blokes will always be attracted to Rugby. Quick or skilful footballers will in mostly be creamed off the association football in the UK. England RU has the same issue, although for them it is exacerbated by a strong preference for conservative rugby based on success at set pieces.
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