Agreed, very good player but there are better players in the forwards than him.

Watmough is more of an athlete than Hanley was. I'd say he's probably faster too.

And just while we are talking about Hanely, he wasnt as good as you lot rate him.

Shut up

Who cares what you think anymore.

Shut up clown.

Great comeback. Brilliant.

Hanley could run sideways quicker than Whatmough can run forward. You really are deluded if you think any of the Aussie are pack are quicker than Hanley was.

Whatmough stands out in the NRL because the standard of players in the NRL is falling. Although SL is miles behind, Aussies know the standard of players being produced is not as good as it was. But then you are an expert cos you watch ESPN

The standard of players in the NRL is not falling at all. A lot of positions over the last few years have evolved. Ball playing loose forwards don't exsist anymore in Aus, the stand off role is more of a third centre position now, and back rows are now far more mobile and athletic than they once were. Whatmough is not as good as Hanly was but as modern day 2nd rowers go he's top class.

Your comments about Whatmough, help me prove my point. You call Whatmough 'top class' yet he is relatively poor defensively. How can someone be a top class forward and not be able to tackle effectively?

Australia do not have a scrum-half at the moment who would have been a Kangaroo tourist between mid-70s and early noughties. Not a chance. I would also question whether any of the props, centres, second-rowers and hookers would either. If you think this squad stands up to squads, even from the mid-90s...


I think you are on the wrong-track, trying to convince me of how the game has changed. I am not making reference to loose-forwards and stand-offs in todays game. I would take you up on your point though. I watched a fair bit of junior RL in Australia, and you could see that the players lacked creativity with ball in hand. The players can off-load, to an excellent standard too, but there was a real lack of spark, creativity and off-the-cuff play. And these games I watched were in areas in which junior talent is very good - Sutherlandshire and south and east Sydney. However, I will say that all of them were athletes, powerful and could defend.

Why don't the ball-playing loose-fowards exist? IMO it's because they don't have any. I can think of a not so long ago retired loose-forward, who played for the Roosters, that the NRL would love to have in their touring party. He was a ball-player, he was also very mobile and athletic.

I've seen a lot of Great Loose Forwards in over fifty years of watching the game, players such as;Karalius,Raper,Price,Coote,Pearce,Reilly,Laughton,Turner,Sculthorpe,
Linder etc........ this list is endless! There is no one I would rather have a the back of my pack than Hanley!

Its funny how you Poms think your loser players are super humans.


Ask Terry Lamb how good Hanley was!

Who?

Lamb would tell you that Hanley was so good that Canterburys whole game plan and any chance of winning the GF revolved around illegaly taking Ellery out of the game.

Lamb was a great player who was unlucky to have played his career out in an era where Australia had so many great Stand Offs.
His dirty, late tackle on Hanley blights his reputation and it robbed the fans of seeing Balmain and Hanley turn it on in the Australian games biggest showpiece.

Oh yes, of course. Another case of a Pom woulda, shoulda, coulda....but he got belted early by an Aussie and never did!

Is this the same Terry 'Super Human' Lamb thats now a little fat-bloke that looks like he can eat his weight in pies!

Whereas Hanley still is in good physical shape.Oh how people go in different directions.

Terry Lamb, produced brilliant results over an amazing career against the worlds best.

As opposed to Hanley who messed around in a pub comp in England and never managed to beat the worlds best players when he played against them.


Terry Lamb hardly played any Test football, but I bet he won more Ashes games then Hanley ever did!

You really are a pathetic joke aren't you.

Why are you attacking me, its Hanleys record against the worlds best that is pathetic!

Mr Lamb was the 'little big man,let's the opposition kind of guy'.eh?

Whereas..Mr Hanley was the 'Black Pearl who oozed class'.. correct?

What a triangle they would of been with a certain Mister 'here's my head my is coming'.. Stuart.....

Except when they won the World Club Challenge Games against Australian teams.



Nothing better than watching a dejected Darren Lockyer being comforted by Uncle Wayne in the dressing room.

The legend who knocked Hanley half way back to the UK and showed him up as the average player he really was

New revised team.

Shaun Briscoe (Paul Sykes is gash)
Tom Briscoe (Peter Fox is gash)
Gareth Ellis (need a strike weapon outside)
Michael Shenton
Ryan Hall
Danny McGuire
Sam Tomkins
Adrian Morley
James Roby
James Graham
Jamie Peacock
Sean O'loughlin
Sam Burgess

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Louie McCarthy Scarsbrook
Gareth Carvell
Scott Moore
Eorl Crabtree (to be used in the second row)

I would accept that our backs are gash in comparison to the Aussies and the kiwis and our sole focus should be on our forwards to lead the way. The Les Catalans of the International scene if you like.

Uh, how does that work?

You grind your forwards into the dirt against opposition that has consistantly beaten them over 40 years straight?


Good idea.

The best part is, Lamb played around 350 first grade games, unbelieveable, his try scoring record was amazing, he was the key player in a number of Premiership winning teams, he played Origin and Test football even in an era of the likes of Fittler, Daley, Kenny, Lyons and the like.....

And these stupid pommy idiots have no idea how good he was. They are probably looking him up on Wikipedia, the bloody stupid idiots!

lamb was a great little player, even though i hated the pr*ck. however, hanley was a once in a generation type player,he moved better than most players ive ever seen. i dont expect you to understand, as you hate all things english, but hanley was twice the player lamb ever was.