golden duck

out Leg Before to a vicious in swinger ...

i was wondering when i mentioned the waratahs crowds who would be dumb enough to pick some of our crowds today

not surprised some did ...lol

15,000 for the Waratahs is terrible

and they got belted too

next time it could be 10,000 . ..

How ing dumb are the Aussies on here?

I never mentioned the s15 attendence, couldn't give a .

Oh it's raining let's all stay in.

At least the dog Tooheys new wasn't served at the ANZ.

Are there any?

All look like expats from where I'm sitting

since when do u talk about RL seriously?

U only talk about it when u want to take a jibe at it, i'm surprised some dimwit RL fans don't see it...

lol

www.theaustralian.com.au/busines ... 6025045416 AFL releases report which shows NRL is the most watched sport in australia

www.theaustralian.com.au/busines ... 6025045416 AFL releases report which shows NRL is the most watched sport in australia

I really do hope that the NRL gets the TV contract it deserves. the figures show it deserves more than the AFL.

I can see the trolls coming soon and giving their 2cent worth

...

I'm sure someone on here will give an opposing perspective and be called a name unnecessary... yes.

The afl get more people attending.


But the NRL get more viewing audience.Why can't they just except it? In NSW and Queensland the ratings FOR the afl are very low.And it hasn't changed for a long time...

Did you score last night?

i agree we all know they are trolls so calling them that is redundant

Ok...to recap.
NRL got 200,000+ for the opening round of the 2011 season


This worked out at over 25,000 a game


43.5% of these fans couldn't be 4rsed turning up a week later


71,000 less fans than the 2 opening rounds in 2010......



so, this beggars the question, where did the missing 88,009 people, who rolled up last week, go



There were 6 games in Sydney I believe.......yet 2 "home" games for the roosters has only attracted a handfull of more fans than 1 game in New Zealand

I thought Sydney was into RL?

16 games of NRL have to date attracted 19,500 as an average.

Now, over to the other codes.
AFL
As these hoofers have yet to start their kickathon off for 2011 proper, it is difficult to compare like for like, but if you use the figures from 2010, then they averaged 40,938 for their opening 2 rounds (16 games...same as the NRL).

Union
Working on the opening 2 rounds schedule as I have with the above, then we get the following results:
5 games with a total of 112,891 fans over the first 2 weeks...averaging 22,578.

I believe that $45 is about the usual ticket price for a game of ball (any ball) in Australia.........it might be more for the toffs in Union as they get less of a season with fewer games, but by my maths, that would put the AFL up, when compared to the NRL by about:
21,500 average per game and over 8 games a round 172,000 fans a round...or in cold hard currency, $7,740,000 or 15.5 million over 2 weekends.

As for Union.....hard to compare because they are State teams etc.....but if pushed, then the following is the result

Average of 3,078 more per game......but only 5 games, so a total of 15,390 or using our $45 a ticket, just shy of $700,000 over the first 2 weeks in (averaged) additional revenue for union over the NRL



Next up...TV.
I have heard how many Australians will watch NRL on TV but this doesn't translate to attending games (see above factual figures when compared with Union and AFL). I Have also been told that the next TV deal will be worth a billlion over 5 years for the NRL, but have also shown how the IRB will generate a Billion USA dollars over 4 tournaments and that is even before they have sold the individual TV rights. The AFL already have their TV deal which is bigger than the NRL.......Union, through the IRB and SANZAR already have massive deals in place.......but so long as SOO comes in just behind neighbours on the TV WEEK viewing figures, some on here will say that TV execs, the NRL and all those in powerful positions should listen the them and them alone...but back in the real world, TV deals have so many parts to their complex construction. This includes audience figures, where the NRL leads the way (especially when you bundle SOO in with them), demographic audience breakdown, game time, group viewing (clubs/bars etc) regional variations and countless other b0ll0x that the TV execs, agencies and middle men have come up with over the years. There's also the Public face of the codes....incidents involving teenage girls on facebook, dogs and peanut butter and extra helpings of knuckles with your big mac go a long way to influencing advertisers and therefore their spend.....but I have no doubt that the NRL will get its AU 1 billion for 240 games + finals (is it 10?) multiplied by 5 years......so 1,250 games at $800k a game...whilst the IRB will get its paltry US $1,000,000,000 for 192 games over 4 tournaments...or US$5,200,000 Per game

.....and that's without the TV deals on top.......so make that a round US$10,000,000 A GAME





Guys...we can argue all we like and the troll hunters will be frothing at their mouths, but in Australia, more people go to AFL games than NRL and Union gets a bigger average attendance.....only on TV does the NRL win and even then, given your TV figures trounce the other 2 codes, relitively, the NRL is the cheapest deal in town for the TV companies.

AFL is a local hobby, League is a local hobby in 2 locals and Union is the biggest con trick of the lot....but also the richest of the 3 by far



You're welcome BTW

Your a ing troll gutterfax, coming on here talking facts!



I've already pointed out Souths corresponding fixture last year got 30,000 this year 18,000.

Don't get me wrong souths are doing some great work, over 12,000 ticketed members, nearly 20,000 members but after signing one of the worlds great players you'd expect a big crowd for their first home game against local rivals where all ticketed away fans get in free!

If the Nrl is the highest rating on tv then the TV deal should reflect that, I doubt it will.

www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5777937840 yes i know its an old article but the situation is worse now unions best game gets killed on TV by everyone .... thats the situation they are in

www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5777937840 yes i know its an old article but the situation is worse now unions best game gets killed on TV by everyone .... thats the situation they are in

Posting old articles, this is a different kind of trolling.

www.tvtonight.com.au/2011/03/pay ... ek-11.html lastes Pay TV ratings ... interesting to compare the NRL and S15 becasue they go head to hed on different channels ...lol

www.tvtonight.com.au/2011/03/pay ... ek-11.html lastes Pay TV ratings ... interesting to compare the NRL and S15 becasue they go head to hed on different channels ...lol

8 Live: Super Rugby: Rebels V Sharks Fox Sports 1 67,000



12 Live: Rugby League: Toyota Cup Fox Sports 2 56,000



15 Live: Super Rugby: Force V Blues Fox Sports 1 52,000


So the Toyota cup again beat a Live S15 game involving an Australian team ...

Is that for all of Australia?

What does 'Channel 5 City Metro' indicate?

The 5 main cities. Syd, Mel, Bris, Adel, Perth. sort of thingy.

England in the cricket came 5th!!!!! Must have been more expats than myself watching them play SA that night.

Without being rude to Australia at all, I see that approx (never accurate figures) 58,000 watched the Liverpool v Man U game, which would probably be less than turned up at Anfield.

...armchair fans are no good to the game. As I have shown, a combination of attendances, media conditions set by those with their own agendas and TV audiences all count when it comes to TV deals......I mean look at the IRB......all that money BEFORE they sell the TV rights



If you doubt that Union is well represented and rewarded for TV when compared to other sports including League and AFL.....try googling the Oxford v Cambridge boat race TV viewing figures

......toffs they may be, but they aren't stupid




Oh, by the way.....you recently quoted NSW v Queensland Origin attendances......
well try these on for size.
NSW....Population 7,240,000 (estimated 2010)
Q'land...Population 4,500,000 (est 2010)

Ireland (Republic and occupied counties) 5,800,000 (est 2010)
Wales...Population just shy of 3,000,000 (est 2010)
Scotland...poulation 5,194,000 (est 2010)

February 27th 2011....Murrayfield...63,082 Scotland v Ireland
March 12th 2011...Millennium stadium...74,233 Wales v Ireland
Febriary 12th 2011 Murrayfield....60,259 Scotland v Wales

Not bad figures really....but even the soccer mad Italians got 32,000 - 32,000 - 34,000 to their 3 home games this year

99% of the country don't even know it exists in either code......but at least the IRB are growing the game. The All Blacks v Italy filled the San Siro stadium (80,000) last year.....beats the 11k that the roos got in parra for their game v a developing nation like PNG.

BTW.....5 rounds of 6 nations games over 5 weekends achieved 914,000 attended fans...at an average of AU$100 a ticket.......that's AU $91,400,000......or if you prefer, AU$6,100,000 a game....BEFORE TV Rights that are sold to Networks around the world like ESPN shown Live in markets like the USA ....not bad for a sick puppy when compared to the AU$800,000 a game the NRL Billion dollar TV deal will pay




even at AU$45 a ticket.....with an average of 20,000 at a game, AU$1,700,00 per game for tickets AND TV revenue for NRL.......AU$6,100,000 per game for the Union BEFORE TV



...still...what do I know eh. The NRL rules

yeah these figures dont include regional figures which add around 30% more for RL...

sorry this is the latest week : www.tvtonight.com.au/2011/03/pay ... ek-12.html so 2 of our games beat the grand final of the A League, an australian WC cricket game and again the Toyota Cup beat a S15 game i dont need to post any more of these things you guys get the picture when i was looking at these ratings closely it used to be : 1. RL - 1.2 million viewres 2. AFL 700,000 viewers 3. RU - 300,000 viewers 4 A League approx similar to S15 around 70% of the most watched shows on Fox Sports are NRL ones with AFL on Foxsports 1, League on Foxsports 2 and S15 on FS3 all going head to head we come out well in front

sorry this is the latest week : www.tvtonight.com.au/2011/03/pay ... ek-12.html so 2 of our games beat the grand final of the A League, an australian WC cricket game and again the Toyota Cup beat a S15 game i dont need to post any more of these things you guys get the picture when i was looking at these ratings closely it used to be : 1. RL - 1.2 million viewres 2. AFL 700,000 viewers 3. RU - 300,000 viewers 4 A League approx similar to S15 around 70% of the most watched shows on Fox Sports are NRL ones with AFL on Foxsports 1, League on Foxsports 2 and S15 on FS3 all going head to head we come out well in front