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| Quote ="Willzay"The fact this is 30 pager just sums up how bad Kendall was.'"
The fact you’ve contributed so compulsively over the course of it shows how obsessed you are. Kendall went ok.
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| It shouldn't be of any suprise fans of that joke club Wakefield are leading the protests about the referee yesterday on this thread. They're well practised in bleating about officials. It's all they're known for.
By contrast, the Salford fans have been well dignified in defeat. Whatever calls went in Saints favour I do reckon they had another gear in then had they needed to. I'm not keen on the wools, but they're worthy Champions.
Question is though, with top players moving on, can Salford remain highly competitive next season? The clubs which finished around them Wigan, Cas and Wire are not much to be feared so with some clever signings and a very shrewd operator in Ian Watson, they could well be in with a shout of getting to the GF again.
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| Quote ="JonnoTheGreat"It shouldn't be of any suprise fans of that joke club Wakefield are leading the protests about the referee yesterday on this thread. They're well practised in bleating about officials. It's all they're known for.
By contrast, the Salford fans have been well dignified in defeat. Whatever calls went in Saints favour I do reckon they had another gear in then had they needed to. I'm not keen on the wools, but they're worthy Champions.
Question is though, with top players moving on, can Salford remain highly competitive next season? The clubs which finished around them Wigan, Cas and Wire are not much to be feared so with some clever signings and a very shrewd operator in Ian Watson, they could well be in with a shout of getting to the GF again.'"
The Salford fans were a credit to the club. I felt the game needed a Saints/Wigan vs Salford final to break apathy. The question over how Salford would be supported was answered positively in an emphatic manner. A great atmosphere but equally laid back as well.
I think Salford will go ok next year; they’ve a good system and are very strong off the field. Hastings is a huge miss and a great signing by Wigan but Watson will keep them up there. Hopefully Salford will grow as a club as our sport needs to, I believe we’ve stagnated recently so all the more reason a ‘new’ team needed in the final.
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| What a weird Thread.
As I see it, St Helens have been the #1 side in SLXXIV by an extremely large margin. The lost just 4 games out of 35 played across both competitions. The CC Final was an off day for them, the 2 losses to London were down to both a few missing players and London stepping up and the other loss was away to Catalan, who have a pretty good Home Record. Other than that, they beat everyone in front of them and finished 16 points ahead of 2nd place. They won the hubcap last year by 10 points. They have lost 5 of their last 52 SL regular season games, so whatever Wire or whatever other club want to say about their fans and referees etc, it's a pointless exercise to do anything other than hail them as the #1 team in terms of consistence in the last 24 months. They have featured in the last 4 major finals...has any other team achieved that in the Summer era?
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| Quote ="AXE2GRIND" They have featured in the last 4 major finals...has any other team achieved that in the Summer era?'" Well they weren't in the 2018 cup final so it's only three.
But anyway yes Leeds appeared in the 2011 and 2012 cup finals and the 2011 and 2012 Grand Finals.
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| Wigan played Warrington in 2018 at OT
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| Quote ="AXE2GRIND"They have featured in the last 4 major finals...has any other team achieved that in the Summer era?'"
Well you're half right. If the stat is corrected to reality rather than made up nonsense, then a few other sides have managed it! Including wire who made 3 of the last 4 despite not being the all conquering saints side which I'm sure you want to point out that your version of Wikipedia says have now just completed the double treble!!!They deserve the league leaders shields and also a major trophy, fact is they should have won more for their dominance.
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| Chris Kendall didn't have the best of games did he ?? But in no way whatsoever did it influence the result.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Well they weren't in the 2018 cup final so it's only three.
But anyway yes Leeds appeared in the 2011 and 2012 cup finals and the 2011 and 2012
Grand Finals.'"
Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Wigan played Warrington in 2018 at OT'"
I stand corrected on the point about the CC final 2018 but my point is still valid.
They were have been the most dominant force in domestic regular season games for 24 months and anyone who argues otherwise is being disingenuous. 5 Losses in 52 regular season games is pretty impressive....Wigan who finished 2nd twice lost 18!
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"No. But his mentor, Trent Robinson, is on the verge of becoming that.'"
I’ve seen you post some crap but that’s terrible even by yo standards, he’s got a team with literally 13 world class players even I could manage that team. Craig Bellamy is the best manager in the world
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| Quote ="Willzay"The fact this is 30 pager just sums up how bad Kendall was.'"
It sums up how obsessed this forum are with St Helens not winning anything. A quite unhealthy obsession at that.
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| Masterful performance by Saints, and thoroughly deserved winners; they did get the benefit of the doubt from Mr Kendall a few times, but certainly didn't need it, nor did it have any bearing on the outcome of the game.
I certainly hope that their style of play percolates to other SL teams next season - they have played with a brilliant combination of hard work and flair all year, which is a refreshing change from the spoiling and cheating of some of their rivals.
Aside from the ill-advised ranting of their sour-faced Chairman after the Wembley defeat, Saints have been exemplary in 2019. Fair play.
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| I drove past Old Trafford before and the stench of Kendall’s biased performance is still stinking the place out
Ex military are programmed and brainwashed to take and follow orders; when Salford got back into it his training kicked in as planned.
But Salford like all classy clubs won’t embarrass themselves like Little Tommie Mc did for his Pygmy saints .
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| Having read the match reports on plenty of media outlets hardly any have even mentioned the referee. I've watched the game back since a few 50/50s did go our way in the second half but no way was the kind of howlers which seriously effected the result.
No suprise though is just how bitter Dire fans are at our success having scooped the prize they covert most of all. We achieve their dreams.
Saints have been a pleasure to watch all season and hopefully the incoming coach can kick this side on further. I see Wigan and Salford as our main threats next season.
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| Quote ="RuddyScoosers"Having read the match reports on plenty of media outlets hardly any have even mentioned the referee. I've watched the game back since a few 50/50s did go our way in the second half but no way was the kind of howlers which seriously effected the result.
No suprise though is just how bitter Dire fans are at our success having scooped the prize they covert most of all. We achieve their dreams.
Saints have been a pleasure to watch all season and hopefully the incoming coach can kick this side on further. I see Wigan and Salford as our main threats next season.'"
Wigan a defo..Salford no chance.even us at dire (as you put it)will fancy our chances with them..
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| Quote ="RuddyScoosers"Having read the match reports on plenty of media outlets hardly any have even mentioned the referee. I've watched the game back since a few 50/50s did go our way in the second half but no way was the kind of howlers which seriously effected the result.
No suprise though is just how bitter Dire fans are at our success having scooped the prize they covert most of all. We achieve their dreams.
Saints have been a pleasure to watch all season and hopefully the incoming coach can kick this side on further. I see Wigan and Salford as our main threats next season.'"
Have Salford announced any signings as there seems to be plenty on their way.
Needless to say, Hastings will be a massive, probably irreplaceable loss and with Toronto likely to spend big and be closer to the top than the bottom, Salford could be scrapping it out at the other end of the table next season.
Warrington will be in the play offs, along with Saints, Wigan, Hull, plus one other side.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Salford could be scrapping it out at the other end of the table next season.'"
Some people, it would seem, never learn...
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Have Salford announced any signings as there seems to be plenty on their way.
Needless to say, Hastings will be a massive, probably irreplaceable loss and with Toronto likely to spend big and be closer to the top than the bottom, Salford could be scrapping it out at the other end of the table next season.
Warrington will be in the play offs, along with Saints, Wigan, Hull, plus one other side.'"
Yeah they've let 7 go and signed-
Tui Lolohea
Chris Atkin
James Greenwood
Kevin Brown
Pauli Pauli
Connor Jones
Jack Ormondroyd
Dan Sarginson
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Yeah they've let 7 go and signed-
Tui Lolohea
Chris Atkin
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Pauli Pauli
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Jack Ormondroyd
Dan Sarginson'"
Plus possibly a couple more finance allowing.
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| Ian Watson will have his work cut out with that half back pairing coupled with the key players going out.
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| Quote ="RuddyScoosers"Having read the match reports on plenty of media outlets hardly any have even mentioned the referee. I've watched the game back since a few 50/50s did go our way in the second half but no way was the kind of howlers which seriously effected the result.
No suprise though is just how bitter Dire fans are at our success having scooped the prize they covert most of all. We achieve their dreams.
Saints have been a pleasure to watch all season and hopefully the incoming coach can kick this side on further. I see Wigan and Salford as our main threats next season.'"
If Salford can find some reasonable replacements for Hastings and Jones I think they will still be a force next season, its as though they have woken up, the players and fans have grasps that grand final achievement to kick on. They will probably overtake an average Warrington side and almost be on a par with Wigan, the important thing is that if they play a similar style to Saints then I don't see why they can't be top four again next year because I reckon Watson has gone up a notch being involved in that well earned grand final.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Have Salford announced any signings as there seems to be plenty on their way.
Needless to say, Hastings will be a massive, probably irreplaceable loss and with Toronto likely to spend big and be closer to the top than the bottom, Salford could be scrapping it out at the other end of the table next season.
Warrington will be in the play offs, along with Saints, Wigan, Hull, plus one other side.'"
I think your lot have a reasonable chance of another 5th placed finish once you get your injured players back. I doubt you'd have struggled as much as you did had they been available for most of the season.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"If Salford can find some reasonable replacements for Hastings and Jones I think they will still be a force next season, its as though they have woken up, the players and fans have grasps that grand final achievement to kick on. They will probably overtake an average Warrington side and almost be on a par with Wigan, the important thing is that if they play a similar style to Saints then I don't see why they can't be top four again next year because I reckon Watson has gone up a notch being involved in that well earned grand final.'"
That's not started well with Brown replacing Hastings.
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| Quote ="RuddyScoosers"I think your lot have a reasonable chance of another 5th placed finish once you get your injured players back. I doubt you'd have struggled as much as you did had they been available for most of the season.'"
Please don't we'll have that idiot jonno on the preach again
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| Quote ="Seth"Ian Watson will have his work cut out with that half back pairing coupled with the key players going out.'"
I also think it will be difficult to maintain the club solidarity Watson has built when so many leave/come in. I rate Watson and think our sport needs more like him so good luck to him.
I like the Atkin signing and I actually wouldn’t be surprised if Brown goes ok. Just not sure about a Lolohea / Brown combination as may not be enough pace there. One player Im surprised no-one has enquired about is Costello at Saints, he aint a world beater but he’s been solid for us and done a job when called upon. Id imagine he’d be low cost in a salary capped sport.
Glad to see the basket of deplorables and their faux controversy and righteous indignation have disappeared from this thread.
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