I can only assume your following Starbug from someone with an actual point of view into trollhood has become complete. Well done, you have brought yourself down to level of Dally M and Barry Mckenzie and Ceejames.

OK...

You can have a maximum of 5 players in your squad who are neither club trained nor Federation Trained.

These players fall into two groups:
Quota - players without a European passport or equivalent.
Non Fed - players with a European passport (or equivalent) who did not spend at least 3 years at a UK club prior to the age of 21.

These two list operate independently of each other with 5 slots available in each list. A player can take up a slot in either OR BOTH lists. For example, an Australian national who did not train with a UK club prior to the age of 21 would take up a slot in both the Quota and Non Fed lists.

There are exceptions, the main one of which is that any player who was registered with a UK club prior to the rules being introduced in 2008 can apply to come off the Non Fed list and become Federation Trained.

Rovers have two players who are Australian but were here before 2008. These player count as Quota but not Non Fed. They have other players who count as Non Fed but not quota, and others who count on neither list as they have an EU passport and were here before 2008.

Rovers have a lot of players who were here before 2008 and/or have EU (or equivalent) passports, allowing them to fill the available slots creatively. Plus Lovegrove who is counted as Club Trained through special dispensation. Hence the large number.

But aren't EU passports still classed as non-fed trained

Only the ones who trained somewhere other than the UK, and weren't here before 2008.

Ah yes, the ignoring the difficult to answer point while trying to take the thread off on a tangent ploy.

Text book Kipperman. First rate!

Aaaw you think you had a point

It is the pre-2008 exemptions that are making the thing so complicated. Once the majority of contracts agreed pre-2008 have expired then the whole thing should be an awful lot simpler - it will effectively be a straightforward limit of 5 non-British players. In the meantime, though, it would be nice if the RFL could publish details of precisely how each club satisfies the criteria.

We have to wait for the players to retire rather than their contracts to end. The exemptions follow the player for life, no matter how many times he changes clubs.

Well IMO your joke of an Experiment should never have been fast-tracked from the lower-leagues.

You're a lower-league Experiment in every sense.

How about these comparisons:

Home support? Rovers 1 FCBQE 0
Travelling support? Rovers 1 FCBQE 0
Merchandise sales? Rovers 1 FCBQE 0
Contribution to the 'success' of MM? Rovers 1 FCBQE 0

I could go on....

That's unfortunate. Still, the numbers will come down gradually over the next three years or so (at HKR Galea and Vella are 32 and will have to be replaced by federation trained players when they retire).

I'm a RL fan before I'm an FC fan. It does concern me what all clubs do in the game, especially if it is a desire to bend round the rules in spite of the spirit of the game.

Instead of trying to pretend you know what FC fans think anyway, tell is your opinion. Do you think it is right that Rovers seem to have 6 non-fed players on there books when the rules state you can only have 5?

So are you saying you can have 5 non-fed players AND 5 quota players?! That's not what the Super League website says: [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/page.php?id=346Super League Competition Structure[/url

"Overseas trained players 2011 = 5"

You were allowed 5 quota and 5 non-fed in 2008, but I'm sure in 2011 it's now down to 5 of any (rendering the difference between "quota" and "non-fed" meaningless)?

[i"The 30-year-old North Queensland Cowboys forward, who has a Tongan mother but was actually born in New Zealand, has been registered with the RFL as a non-Federation trained player but does not count on the five-strong quota. "[/i

This article suggests that he isn't even on that quota. If that's the case, does that mean he's classed as federation trained?! If so, that is absolutely ludicrous!

(Sorry if I'm covering old ground here, there's a lot of pages that I can't be bothered to sift through.

You often do, usually with ill-informed, flat-capper drivel

You're allowed a maximum of 5 names on each list. If you ignore the complexities of the exemptions, then that effectively means that you can't have more than five non-english players in total, since all players on the quota list will also be on the non-fed list (I presume the two list thing is being retained to show, if in name only, that the RFL recognises a legal distinction between players with and players without a given right to work in this country).

The confusion is arising because the exemptions from non-fed status are creating an artificial situation in which a player can be on the quota but exempt from the non-fed list (this won't be possible once all the exemptions have run out). Therefore it is currently theoretically possible to have 5 quota players and as many non-fed players as you like, provided they were all on board before 2008.

You must have been absolutely besides yourself 12 years ago then , when rugby league sacrificed an expansion club to the benefit of an established one,being a rugby league fan first and all that.Due to the fact it's 80 percent fc fans commenting on here and one quins fan who saw his side smashed twice last year with ease (without mason) as dally says jealousy .close thread mods

You really do need either some history lessons or a simple course in basic accounting for dummies.

The word 'Quota' refers only to non-EU players nowadays. Everyone else is either Club Trained, Fed Trained, or Non Fed.

Like shooting fish in a barrel roofs.....re-read my post. I said what the RFL are looking at....not what straws you were grasping at!
I already said you had more home fans.....but away fans, shirt sales and MM mean f^&k all.....but hey, you carry on slopping paint on the toilet of a ground you have, spending money on over the hill Aussies in the pursuit of the bigger and better run hull club and patting yourself on the back for your away support....missile throwers and all.


...what? repeating meaningless factoids? You do go on roofs.....except you go on about stuff that doesn't matter. Your posts are as empty as HKA's trophy cabinet over the last 4 years.




Over use of pictures in a submission stopped counting for anything when you left Primary school (that's if you have left)

My "sham" of an "experimental" club tick more RFL boxes than your proud and traditional outfit. Where we fall down, we freely admit to having a problem, but HKA continue to try to find a short term solution....like taking an expensive asprin to try to cure cancer.

As I mentioned on another thread, the laws of arithmetic will catch up with them long before anything that red Hall can conjure

Without wishing to derail the thread, what happened about the lighter-throwing at Wigan players?

I think the RFL accepted the excuse that they were convinced Mick Crane had signed for Wigan and he was asking for a light for the tab he always kept behind his ear

{note to roofs....use of smilies is permitted here.....the post was funny so I laughed....not the poster laughing at himself}



good point...Castleford got hammered for a chant...which whilst not nice, was never potentially going to take someones eye out.

How many non-fed players are you allowed?

Like I said, I thought you were only allowed a maximum of 5 overseas trained players, which is a combination of non-fed and quota player? And I thought this was the point of changing the quota laws?

So which Rovers players are non-fed players did Rovers have before 2008? I can only think of Vella, Fisher, Lovegrove and Newton. The other 6 are either non-fed or quota. Which one isn't included in the 5?