He's a young guy, why wouldn't he want to head to Toronto for a couple years. Not worked out for him but we've pocketed a tidy fee.
We are VERRY thin on players now.

Livett will grow into a international loose forward, but this is 12 months too soon I reckon for him.

Typical flat capper comment.

Ok didn't know that
No problem here!

Or someone who simply misunderstood the cap ruling.

No need for your comment.

Toronto clearly mean business. This can only be good for rugby league.

They've started off at the bottom and not taken a shortcut, so nobody should have any qualms about what the Wolfpack are doing.

Hope they play some Canadians alongside these experienced signings.

How's that for a flat cap comment?

I bet all those Championship standard Canadian RL players are really ed off at this moment in time.

Perhaps they can let us (Leigh) have some of ours back, now we are in the Championship?

Fair enough!

Money talks.

Think there only 3 or 4 Canadians out of the 29 team squad at the moment, doesn't look as though there will be an increase as they have signed up another 8 overseas players. So that could be around 36 players in the squad with a salary average of 52k with rent, transport and food for free.

I,m a multi millionaire and thinking of buying up Barrow Raiders could I buy 30 overseas players on the basis that my club would be a hundred miles from the M62 heartlands.

No, that would be breaking the overseas quota HTH.

It was always going to be thus. You can't compare them to Catalans, where there was a thriving league scene, just at a lower level. As for Cumbria, you've had over a hundred years to establish a big club and still not managed it.

Interesting, squad numbers I mean. I saw an article the other week where they were moaning slightly about having only used 22 players this year. I thought that sounded incorrect especially since they signed a couple mid season

As long as you pay for their flights over Morecambe Bay and the stay in Barrow.

£130,000 !!!





What on earth !

I reckon its the other way around, they have started at the top by signing players one division above the current standard, hence the big 50, 60, 70 point scorelines. Next season they will have a decent squad in the championship that could compete in super league albeit at the lower end.
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Its what happens in about 3 years time will grass roots grow or will they be digging more deeply into the shallow UK player pool, or even worse sign up some of the best players in Superleague from the top clubs, if they can pay out £130k for Westerrman I reckon they could be offering quite a few players £300k to £400k for the 2019 season on an expansion style dispensation salary cap.

Is Westerman the most expensive player in SL history, I make that nearly 400k in transfer fees for him.

Good solid player, but not sure he is worth this much, must have a good agent.

Well Fielden's transfer was £450k in 2006 which is nearly £600k today. Tomkins (albeit transferred to the NRL) was £700k.

Stuart Fielden was 450k IIRC?

They can have average Westerman, Jamie Acton has re-signed for us.....

I used to follow the ice hockey early 90s and if I remember right it was 3 imports rule? It then went to 5 and it was a better spectacle as these mostly Canadian imports were superior to the local lads for obvious reasons.its increased over the years to I think 11 imports and the wealthier franchises had 12/13 imports and stood down 2 each week.Became sterile and the imports blocked off British lads pathways.Rules were changed so the roster had to have so many UK players in it but the teams then signed up youngsters on pittances and put them on the bench and used them to sit out penalties. It's a little similar to our game and I'd like to see Canadian players playing alongside real quality imports same with Catalans .Westerman is a quality player in his prime but there are a lot of UK plodders over there and bearing in mind grid iron and ice hockey are massive over there I'd suggest there will be far better Canadian atheletes who could do the job?

That great "dispensation salary cap" that you've just made up.

he means total, bit weird to think in this day and age, 3 moves, 3 big transfer fees paid.

I doubt anyone else has moved clubs for a fee three times

Here's a conversation for you - "paul, I want to get Toronto in the Superleague in 5 years" "ok, in Championship 1 I need Championship players to win it. In the championship, I need super league players to win it. If thats the case, I'll get you into Super league in 3"

Not sure why people have an issue. If I had a business and had the chance to be multinational in 3 years, I wouldn't P**s around in the markets of Barrow selling socks for a pound, thinking of what could have been. Toronto have 23 players in their squad this year. If you compare their squad to Wigan's then the salary cap seems very very insignificant.

To put into perspective what North America thinks of sport - the Blue Jays signed Bautista on a 5 year deal for 65 million dollars, circa 11 million dollars a year. £7 million pounds. our cap is £1.825 million FOR A TEAM. They laugh at our cap but believe our sport is brilliant. Another Canadian team, then New York, then Chicago etc etc. In 5 years the North American league will be asking Wigan, Leeds, Saints to join their league. At this time, the fact that Swinton, Halifax and Bradford founded the league will mean very little.