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| Quote ="Mark"I think it's terrible that players that take recreational drugs and are allowed to come back, should be life bans. Cheats.'"
you've got andrew johns in your avatar you clown
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"you've got andrew johns in your avatar you clown'"
Gotcha.
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| Quote ="nick hkr"And your profile picture is of who???
It happens more than most think, wrong it may be but thats life and they put their careers on the line each and every time they do it but quite possibly that is the buzz of it all.'"
and another.
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| Quote ="vikingsmurf"did he need rehabilitating? it is my understanding he had a bit of charlie with some mates and got caught out. hardly smacks of regular use/life shattering addiction.
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From memory some of the reports at the time implied it was a bit more than "a bit of charlie with some mates"
I don't know Gareth and I don't know how prone to addiction he is but if you look up the definition of "rehabilitate" I think it is appropriate in his case. I think some of the conditions set by Wigan fit the term also.
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| Hock is not a drugs cheat as he was not using a performance enhancing drug, he was a moron for taking a class A illegal drug, he has served his ban and is now being given a second chance, which everyone deserves.
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| Quote ="Mark"and another.'"
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| Quote ="rover49"Hock is not a drugs cheat as he was not using a performance enhancing drug, he was a moron for taking a class A illegal drug, he has served his ban and is now being given a second chance, which everyone deserves.'"
I find myself agreeing with a Rovers supporter.
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| I think you are missing my point, it was nothing to do with Wigan employing him, it was the media making a big point about how well he did scoring a hat trick against Wakefield, and on the radio pretty much coming across as saying that taking drugs is not a huge problem as you will always be able to play again.
In regards to another point saying about a fan sniffing coke in the toilets - if the police saw him then he would more than likely get arrested, potentially get a conviction which would lead to the sack by many companies and the normal man on the street would then find it hard to find another good job, so actually sport on the whole is very lenient with drug users.
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| Quote ="wakeytom"I think you are missing my point, it was nothing to do with Wigan employing him, it was the media making a big point about how well he did scoring a hat trick against Wakefield, and on the radio pretty much coming across as saying that taking drugs is not a huge problem as you will always be able to play again.
In regards to another point saying about a fan sniffing coke in the toilets - if the police saw him then he would more than likely get arrested, potentially get a conviction which would lead to the sack by many companies and the normal man on the street would then find it hard to find another good job, so actually sport on the whole is very lenient with drug users.'"
Don`t get me wrong mate,personaly I think anybody who takes drugs is a mug.
The fact is Hock has paid the price,and therefore should be accepted into the fold,although I do agree anybody saying drugs taking is not a problem needs a reality check.
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| he was a silly boy,got caught,paid his dues and like so many other wrong do-ers should be allowed to rebuild his life and career.dont see how he is a cheat,it was for his recreational use not to cheat.
can't say im too fond of the player myself but he could have gone off the rails so good luck to him.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Wigan bringing rugby league to a new low shocker!'"
How about cheering for Ryan 'I loved it hard in prison' Bailey...?????
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| As far as i'm concerned, the lad has been caught, paid the price and should have the opportunity to ressurect his career just like any other individual. What the media chose to report and whatever spin they put on it is entirely up to them.
Whether you consider the ban long enough is irrelevant as the time frame's are set in conjunction with WADA or another body.
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| I blame Rebekah Brookes for all this idolizing of drug offenders! Are Sky genuinely interested in the development of rugby league by hyping up the return of one of many prodigal sons.
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| Quote ="Mark"Gotcha.
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Thats if 'rumors' are true
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| Quote ="Mark"I think it's terrible that players that take recreational drugs and are allowed to come back, should be life bans. Cheats.'"
life bans are way too strict. yes athletes who use steroids and other performance enhancing drugs are wrong but 2 year bans is a big enough punishment.
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| He is not a cheat, he did not take performance enhancing drugs. He took the same drugs that thousands of people people do each day in this country. I am not saying what he did is ok but he is NOT a cheat.
I am chuffed to see him back. 2 years out and he is already looking like one of the top backrowers again.
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| Welcome back, Mr Hock, you've done your time.
I'm a Bradford fan, but I realise that he is quality and has been missed.
Wish he played for us.
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| If wigan hadnt signed him, you can guarantee EVERY other team in superleague and a few NRL teams would have been asking about him
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"If wigan hadnt signed him, you can guarantee EVERY other team in superleague and a few NRL teams would have been asking about him'"
NRL teams were asking about him before he signed his 5 year deal with Wigan.
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| As others have said, he was stupid, he got caught, he served his ban, so what's the problem?
I think it's a bit of sour grapes on the OP's part
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| RL players are human like everyone else.
I have never been a fan of Hock.
But he has paid the price, served his time and hopefully learned a few lessons.
So pack it it guys, and welcome him back. Let those who are without sin cast the first stone, eh?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"RL players are human like everyone else.
I have never been a fan of Hock.
But he has paid the price, served his time and hopefully learned a few lessons.
So pack it it guys, and welcome him back. Let those who are without sin cast the first stone, eh?'"
For someone like Adeybull who normally just trolls thats a very sensible post.
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| Big daft lads do big daft lad stuff .
He ain't the first , and won't be the last .
Had his wrists slapped . Now let him get on with his life .
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| Quote ="wakeytom"I think you are missing my point, it was nothing to do with Wigan employing him, it was the media making a big point about how well he did scoring a hat trick against Wakefield, and on the radio pretty much coming across as saying that taking drugs is not a huge problem as you will always be able to play again.
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So you're against the media praising players who are playing well because they have done something wrong in the past?
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