Learning to play Rugby League to a semi decent standard might be a start.

How do you suggest that they do this?

So you suggest they ' train ' 16 hours per day after just playing a hard season , after being travelling for 30 odd hours ?

Bleedin ell Barry, do you really need to create 5 identical threads.
Get over it, youre getting tedious now

30 hours from England to Australia?

Which way do you think they go?







You don't have to train 16 hours a day.... but when you are as poor as England it might be advisable to do a bit more than they are currently doing

So, nothing as 'bad' as the extra-curricular activities of a certain Australian RL legend over as player on the '82 tour then ?

Bad behaviour from sportsmen is nothing new ... doesnt make it right.

But if you are an ordinary player in an ordinary team its wise to use your time constructively rather than eating icy poles, rooting old molls and sunbathing.

My tax pounds have been wasted on an end of season jolly.

You only need to read the twitters of those down under to see its nothing but a nice relaxing holiday

I,ve done the trip 4 times , if you can get from England to Oz in less than 30 hours including traveling to the airport , checking in 2 hours before flying , and then getting to a hotel the other end , please tell us how ?

Where on earth are you staying in Sydney?

Your hotel must be about 5 hours away from the airport going on your figures

obviously there has to be some winding down but not to the point where the players are basically taking the . Your there to win Rugby League matches and not treat it as a free holiday in the Sun.

The question you need to ask is would NZ or Australian players be doing the same thing?

So you admit you cannot do the trip in under 30 hours , flying time alone is around 23/24 , LA to Sydney is 13 hours , then 2/3 hours before flying , minimum 2 hours stop over half way

Anyway Barrie you most probably are correct , we will lose to both the convicts and the world champions , then again personnally I couldn't care less how we do

Why do you not care about your country's own team.
I don't get this I'm not bothered about England attitude,surely the pinnacle of our game is for your country to do well in any International competition,I would give anything for England to win the World Cup in 2013.

Do you have any links to prove such allegations. I'd be interested to read them.

Ahh... you go via LA?

You should go LHR to SYD via Singapore

A much better route

I used to be , went to a few internationals , but not too fussed any more , the game above the Championships dont float my boat , then again the game below SL isn't that interesting anymore either , just ' apathy ' creeping in I suppose

Only spent 2 hours in Sydney , all my trips have been to the ' Shakey Isles ' , but no matter , it's still 30 hours ' travelling ' either way

The reason I go through LA is it's only a one hour flight to Vegas from there

Luke Robinson postponed his wedding to represent his country in this 4 Nations tournament while Stuart Fielden flew out literally hours after the birth of his first child. Sounds to me like at least two of them are taking it seriously

Come on mate let's get behind our country,I know we are not a good side but we have to get behind the lads surely.

A few weeks sat on a beach getting a tan, or a few weeks of sleepless nights. Big Stu got it spot on

Its around 13 hrs to Singy from London and then 7 or so to Sydney.. depending on your carrier...and what day of the week you fly. The stop in Singapore is usually only about an hour and a half.

And the advantage of going that way is there are no Seppo immigration people trying to spoil your day like they do at LAX

Im assuming you fly Air New Zealand then... or United?

I might watch the NZ one to see if I can spot my brother in the crowd at the Cake tin , but in all honesty we are that bad it is embarrassing really , I just dont feel an ' afiliation ' with the players , Now if it was Championship team taking on France locally , I'd probably go

Hey... its a tough choice.

Get married to some chick in a registers office in Wigan... or fly on an all expenses paid holiday to Australia and New Zealand with the lads... business class naturally.

A real tough one.....

Englands a nice enough place to visit.. plenty of history and funny looking buildings... but I seriously cant see the Australian team enjoying the sun sea and surf over here in November. People dont visit the UK for the leisure side of things.

And with respect... it's not exactly the culinary empire of western europe is it...so you would be unlikely to come for the food.

Unless you like that good old pommie dish 'bubble and squeak'...which if I'm not mistaken is a better way of describing refried left overs

...unlike Sydney which is a real centre of culinary excellence


Bazza...you slag off blighty but it would seem you have taken to the biggest participation sport in the country quite well........fishing