every other football code was established in sydney prior to RLs introduction in 1908

ie AFL, soccer and RU.

indeed the battle for supremacy with union which began in 1908 was only won in 1909 when the NSWRL signed the second lot of wallabies including chris mckivat and the playing of the roos vs wallaby games.











anything else youd like to know dear.

They were for many years of the sport , true we didn't modernise and they were left behind

So who do you think will replace them ?

when i say established i mean they were in strong positions, far stronger than a weakling RL.

we started off behind them in sydney and destroyed them all.

replace them where?

they are in the leagues they deserve to be in.

my point is they dont deserve to be in SL. and all their bleating from their fans about various RFL injustices or the fact that expansion clubs dont deserve to be in SL is just jealousy.

these failed heartland clubs get what they deserve

So there were proffesional Football clubs operating in Australia in 1909 on a similar level to those in the UK ?

I'll give you a little bit of help , the 1909 FA cup final was played in front of 71,000 people at Crystal Palace , who won the australian equivalent

In SL you pillock , you know the thing you keep quoting as the sport in the UK , you have slagged everybody off except Leeds and W1g4n

If all us heartland clubs are not fit to grace SL who should replace them ? , it is not a hard question , even for you

nope i never said wigan and leeds were the only clubs that deserve to be in SL.

im comfortable with the current heartland clubs in SL except wakey for widnes next time.

but within 5 years all of these clubs needs to be averaging 10,000 crowds and making moves to improve stadia which are poor.

the best example is Hull KR. slow crowd growth and continual ground improvements.

Come on Dally this one , you've avoided it for several pages now


The introduction of the ' Pokie ' machines produced massive revenue for RL in Australia , what [size=150expansion[/size did this produce ?


Easy question for somebody of your undoubted intellect

RL wasnt professional in australia in 1909 dunce.






in australia all the other footy codes were around before us and were stronger.

we came in and beat them

And if they dont what do you suggest happens ?

Quote ="dally messenger"also from that article : www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5804908450 "A new television deal and the expansion of the game will be top priorities. Two new clubs - possibly from the Central Coast and a second team in Brisbane - will be added to the premiership by 2013. This will provide an extra game and extra television programming." '" or maybe not! www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...1129-jyzj.html Quote In contrast to the AFL and the other main football codes, league has no plans for expansion and the Herald was told yesterday that no new teams were likely to be added until 2017, to coincide with the TV deal anticipated to begin after the expiry of the next one, to start in 2013 '"

Quote ="dally messenger"also from that article : www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5804908450 "A new television deal and the expansion of the game will be top priorities. Two new clubs - possibly from the Central Coast and a second team in Brisbane - will be added to the premiership by 2013. This will provide an extra game and extra television programming." '" or maybe not! www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...1129-jyzj.html Quote In contrast to the AFL and the other main football codes, league has no plans for expansion and the Herald was told yesterday that no new teams were likely to be added until 2017, to coincide with the TV deal anticipated to begin after the expiry of the next one, to start in 2013 '"

pick the best from a bad bunch.

kicking wakey out will hopefully be a lesson for cas and others like them, maybe even bradford one day.

and also an incentive for clubs like fax that they have a chance at getting in.

some clubs certainly are moving in the right direction.

the whole idea of franchising is clubs will improve in these areas and i believe the system will pull it off.

then again you get some clubs who get brand new grounds and still fail so it does question your faith in some clubs

So you had F u c k all to beat really didn't you ?

All you had to beat was the equivalent of a park kick about football and a few jessies in tank tops , well done I'm impressed

Quote ="JB Down Under"or maybe not! www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...1129-jyzj.html'" you are an AFL fan. people should believe the person who actually backs RL in australia.

Quote ="JB Down Under"or maybe not! www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...1129-jyzj.html'" you are an AFL fan. people should believe the person who actually backs RL in australia.

RU crowds and finances were very strong prior to the introduction of RL

international RU games drew very large crowds of up to 40,000, and the NSWRU had around 8000 pounds in the bank. enough money indeed to buy its own ground.

AFL and soccer were getting fair crowds for their games as well.

RL started from a position of nothing.

at least in england you had established clubs and crowds and finances. we started from scratch.

please keep this up, its funny watching you losing so badly

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you have shown your a r s e more times than a rent boy these last few days , pack it in you've lost

whats a rent boy?

why is it these people just cant read or comprehend answers to posts, and you have to end up repeating the same point around five times before they understand the answer?

your a tool, people shouldn't believe you about anything!

They were here as well

As for the footy , No they were not , and you know it , Association football only started to grow when the immigration after the war started to happen

People DONT believe him about anything

You mean WOGBALL dont you , nobody played the sport till the immigration from the med and the UK in the 60's , thats where all your pro clubs have come from , they didn't exist till 1977 , so yes Australian RL managed to stay just about level with Rugby Union and the silly ' tank top ' game , but they did not have to compete with the worlds biggest , largest , richest sport

Anyway when the ozzie clubs had all the money from the ' pokies ' did they expand the sport with it ?

ill repeat again for the intellectually challenged, prior to the establishment of RL in sydney in 1908, every other sport was well established in sydney.

soccer was very strong in parts of sydney, including balmain.

AFL at times was a threat to club RU

and RU was teh major sport with massive crowds and money

RL started from scratch and beat them all.

and ill say it again, soccer was well established in australia prior to 1908

PRIOR TO 1908

im still waiting on an answer on how you know the habits of transvestites on holderness Rd jb?

fits in with being an AFL fan!

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The article here
suggests otherwise!

"With Messenger in their ranks in 1908, the NSWRL and QRL began to build club competitions that were able to provide injury benefits and financial rewards for working-class footballers. The spectator appeal of rugby league ensured it attracted large crowds and gate-takings, with Easts, Souths, Balmain, Wests, Newtown, Newcastle, Norths, Glebe and Cumberland the original NSWRL premiership clubs."