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| Lol gutters, the RU spin is strong in this one!
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Lol gutters, the RU spin is strong in this one!'"
these are not the trolls you're looking for
Quote ="nko11"Well, I actually live in Australia and can tell you that it is as big as many posters say here. Tell me more about the country i have lived in my entire life, please!
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Really......so it's massive in Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth, Darwin, Tasmania and Canberra is it? Do you dispute the order of sports and their NATIONAL popularity below?
1. Cricket
2. AFL
3. RL
4. Union.
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| Cricket most popular! Are you joking? The "county" equivalent is nearly non existent. Don't get me wrong cricket is important to Aussies but nowhere near RL and AFL.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"these are not the trolls you're looking for
Really......so it's massive in Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth, Darwin, Tasmania and Canberra is it? Do you dispute the order of sports and their NATIONAL popularity below?
1. Cricket
2. AFL
3. RL
4. Union.'"
On what basis is Cricket the leader?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"On what basis is Cricket the leader?'"
I read it in a book? That seems to be the accepted reply to these things.... ...that and this...
Quote Australia does not have an official national sport. However, unofficially, the national sport would be regarded as cricket. According to the source Repucom/ Daily Telegraph, which surveyed a cross-section of the population, cricket was selected as the most popular sport in Australia by participation, spectator and television viewer numbers. The Australian men's cricket team is ranked as Australia's favourite and most successful international sporting teams (despite a bad season in 2010's summer). '"
Read more: [urlhttp://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_Australia's_national_sport#ixzz1tNv8gu9w[/url
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| Quote ="gutterfax"these are not the trolls you're looking for
Really......so it's massive in Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth, Darwin, Tasmania and Canberra is it? Do you dispute the order of sports and their NATIONAL popularity below?
1. Cricket
2. AFL
3. RL
4. Union.'"
The order would be:
=1.Rugby League
=1. AFL
3. Cricket
4.Soccer
5.Rugby Union
The only reason Cricket gets sprouted as No.1 is because it's played nationwide. But it's not in the same league as RL and AFL. And yes RL is massive in Canberra and Darwin. NSW and QLD add up to be over 52% of the population. AFL only has crowds; RL gets better TV ratings. RL has major keys of SoO and Internationals, which puts it beside, if not above AFL. Soccer is bigger than Rugby Union, It has =International appeal, But soccer has a far bigger club support.
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| here we go again.
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| Considering the media coverage nrl attendances are pretty poor. Apart from in Brisbane where elephant water polo could draw a 50k crowd at suncorp.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Considering the media coverage nrl attendances are pretty poor. Apart from in Brisbane where elephant water polo could draw a 50k crowd at suncorp.'"
Its very poor tbh, it does have a number of contributing factors though.
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| There is no such thing as a national sport in Australia. In fact if you were to go on participation spread throughout the country netball would probably be the most national game!
RL is king in 60%
Afl is king in 40%
RU, soccer, basketball are 2nd tier sports
Cricket is something to watch in summer when tests are on and there is no footy and comes in the same category as golf, fishing etc in that it is more a pastime than sport!
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"There is no such thing as a national sport in Australia. In fact if you were to go on participation spread throughout the country netball would probably be the most national game!
=#FF0000RL is king in 60%
Afl is king in 40%
RU, soccer, basketball are 2nd tier sports
Cricket is something to watch in summer when tests are on and there is no footy and comes in the same category as golf, fishing etc in that it is more a pastime than sport!'"
Whats this based on?
I agree about Cricket.
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| Nsw,q,land,act&nt v Vic, sa,wa,tas (although the crowd for storm in Hobart this year would suggest plenty of nrl support in tassie)
Consider also nrl in Perth rates as highly as afl in Sydney despite population difference and hundreds of millions invested in nsw by afl.
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| I'm not denying NRL rates very high on tv, If ever a game was made for tv this is it.
Bu lets not get carried away, Afl is stronger in Qld and Nsw than Rl is in Vic. In SA and WA rl is virtually non existent.
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| How do you figure? We have not had opportunity to test that yet. When the game is live on fta in afl states and the Arlc he the money to spend expanding the game that afl has had we will ge a truer picture. As said now we finally have some decent tv Covg in WA the tv ratings are on par with afl in nsw and per head of population crowds for nrl are better than swans are drawing. Just wait until we get a team!
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| Just because people watch it on tv doesn't mean their going to support a club.
Afl is the dominant in WA, to suggest other wise would be ridiculous.
I'm a great supported of the WA nrl side for all the reasons you put forward, but the recent South Sydney crowds aren't amazing and this has to kept up for 24 rounds.
Was it supported well the last time the Reds were in the Nrl, did their average attendances come close to the 2 Afl sides?
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| More fans at games.....more TV money and currently more TV viewers.......but JB says AFL is 2nd to Rugby League......
I rest my case
FFS.......of the 3 SoO games last year, the NRL GF and the AFL GF....which one got more viewers than the RWC semi-final between NZ and Australia?
Was it:
1. SoO
2. NRL GF
3. AFL GF
or 4........none of them got close?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Just because people watch it on tv doesn't mean their going to support a club.
Afl is the dominant in WA, to suggest other wise would be ridiculous.
I'm a great supported of the WA nrl side for all the reasons you put forward, but the recent South Sydney crowds aren't amazing and this has to kept up for 24 rounds.
Was it supported well the last time the Reds were in the Nrl, did their average attendances come close to the 2 Afl sides?'"
That's not what you said! You said afl is bigger in rl states than nrl in afl states. We shall see a truer test of that over the next 5 years. Of course rl will never be as big as afl in WA. Will it be bigger than afl in nsw or q'land is the question.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"That's not what you said! =#FF0000You said afl is bigger in rl states than nrl in afl states. We shall see a truer test of that over the next 5 years. Of course rl will never be as big as afl in WA. =#4000FFWill it be bigger than afl in nsw or q'land is the question.'"
=#BF0000This is unquestionable, =#4000FFthis doesn't make sense.
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| yes it does!
Is RL bigger in Victoria, WA and SA than AFL is in NSW and Q'land? That was what you stated! With the money that RL is about to get and the new TV deal that will see FTA coverage into AFL states we will see the Storm and hopefully WA Reds really grow. AFL has been trying for 30 years to crack NSW and despite shed loads of $'s, a friendly media and two teams the game still struggles to attract people to watch it. I can see the popularity of NRL in WA being bigger than the popularity of AFL in NSW within the next few years. Does that help?
Quote ="Sheldon".
Bu lets not get carried away, Afl is stronger in Qld and Nsw than Rl is in Vic. In SA and WA rl is virtually non existent.'"
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| Afl is far bigger in NSW and Qld than rl is in Vic, sa and wa.
To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.
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| Are you actually reading my posts?
AFL has had a 25 year head start. Over the next 5 years RL has a significant opportunity to claw back that ground if the ARLC make the right decisions about investment and expansion. Perth NRL viewing figures currently matches AFL Sydney viewing, that gives me hope that a well run, well financed WA Reds/WARL will be bigger than the Sydney Swans and the joke that is GWS and that (popualtions taken into consideration) RL will have more Jnrs, more TV viewers and more people supporting RL in WA than Sydney has supporting AFL within a few years.
RL has had both hands tied behind its back for 15 years, the shackles are about to come off!
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| The shackles are off, but give it 2 years.
You either have a bizarre understanding of afl in sydney or nrl must be booming in wa (underground).
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| RL will be booming in WA IF we get a fraction of what the AFL has pumped into Sydney. AFL viewing figures sub 50K, AFL attendances around 20k and 10k. I am confident we can do better!
Quote ="Sheldon"The shackles are off, but give it 2 years.
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Not yet , lock has been removed with the ditching of ARL old farts and the kicking out of the News stooges but we still need that $billion pay day and announcement of expansion to get us moving in the right direction
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| Lots of IF's, BUT's and MAYBE's in this thread..........
The average gates at the NRL are 17,191 and at AFL 34,761.......
Just 1 AFL team averages less than 15,000.........the NRL has 9 teams with sub 15k averages
The AFL currently has a TV deal that is more then the NRL....the previous TV deal that the AFL got was, coincidently, bigger than the NRL as well.
Rugby League enjoys a much better media presence in Australia than it does in the UK, but it is the 2nd football code.
Mondays papers.......
National [urlhttp://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport[/url
New South Wales [urlhttp://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport[/url
Western Australia[urlhttp://www.perthnow.com.au/sport[/url
Southern Australia [urlhttp://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport[/url
Northern Territories [urlhttp://www.ntnews.com.au/sport[/url
Tasmania [urlhttp://www.themercury.com.au/sport[/url
Victoria [urlhttp://www.theage.com.au/sport[/url
Queensland[urlhttp://www.couriermail.com.au/sport[/url
Auckland [urlhttp://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport[/url
Wellington [urlhttp://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/[/url
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