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| Quote ="j.c"perhaps if some of you start putting a extra pound a week away in your piggy banks now,by the time the tournament comes around you'll have enough money saved to attend a couple of games
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150 quid? How many games am I supposed to go to?
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"
Don't move games to random places (why someone said St James Park I will never know).
Keep football stadiums to a minimum, they cost money to use and will not sell-out as easily.'" we dont have the size, or number of stadiums, which arent football stadiums, and are in the heartlands to cover the games.
We need to be more ambitious. The WC is the showcase for the game, it isnt the bread and butter. We need as many people as possible to attend, so we need as big a stadium as possible.
We need to stop looking at 10k for most group games, 20k for England, Australia, NZ group games, 30k for the semis and 60 for the final as an achievement.
You sell a minor group game, to a minor town, with a 10k capacity you will get a a small attendance.
You sell a couple of minor group games as a double header, in a 55k stadium, You heavily push it and market it as a festival of rugby league, then you get a bigger attendance.
I can well imagine a fair few clubs in heartlands, being prepared to put on a bus and take 30/40 people up to Newcastle for a WC double header and a night on the beer afterwards.
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| Quote ="BigRob"150 quid? How many games am I supposed to go to?'"
five or six maybe.
how many would you like to go to for £150 quid?
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| Quote ="AJ Viking"The decisions for venues is quite big but many have already been made from past experience, i.e. Wigan/Hudds/Hull for England games in the north I'd expect. The final will be at Elland Road again as a 40,000 capacity is about right with cheaper tickets to fill.
Group games we have some nice stadiums to use, Warrington, Leigh, Widnes, Saints new ground, Headingley, Salfords new ground.
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I agree, except I dont think Elland road has ever held the world cup final. Id keep nearly all the games in the north and nearly all of them at RL grounds, appart from the opener at Elland Road and the final at Old Trafford.
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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11908445
Councils have spent over £2million bidding to host football world cup games that are to be played in Russia. I hope they put a similar effort into hosting RL world cup games.
Leeds city council spent: £272,829
Manchester council spent : £144,750
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Councils have spent over £2million bidding to host football world cup games that are to be played in Russia. I hope they put a similar effort into hosting RL world cup games.
Leeds city council spent: £272,829
Manchester council spent : £144,750
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| Crazy suggestion, why not try a cricket ground? Employ some temporary seating, you could easily fit in a good 4,000 extra through making it rectangular, tickets for the oval would be cheap and could go fast.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Lots of double headers should be used for smaller games along with some of the larger games. The opener should be a double header at Wembley or OT. England V Australia along with NZ v France. England v Ireland might not get more than 20k but with NZ v Samoa thrown in as well people might go.'"
Huzzah! It only took us one and a bit pages.
AJ Viking mentioned £15 is too much for a group game. Fair point in his opinion. IIRC I think I paid that amount for the England V Australia game at the DW Stadium last year (give or take a fiver.) However when you hire out a stadium you have pretty much got it for the day, plus whatever preparation you need beforehand. Maximise the use of the pitch especially at the smaller group games.
As previously mentioned as well, try to locate games in areas that have a large population of that nations ethnic mix. Like playing one or two Fijian games around Manchester because of their links there.
Opening round of games, for example, could be.
Day One - Friday night.
England V Australia - DW/KC Stadium. 8pm kick off.
Day Two - Saturday.
Fiji V Ireland - Salford's new stadium. 1pm kick off.
Papua New Guinea V Samoa - Salford's new ground. 3pm kick off.
Scotland V Tonga - Wrexham. 5pm kick off.
Wales V Cook Islands - Wrexham. 7pm kick off.
Day Three - Sunday.
USA V Lebanon - The Stoop. 5pm kick off.
New Zealand V France - The Stoop. 5pm kick off.
Avoid having double headers on weekdays, and if possible no games midweek as this minimises attendances due to people at work etc.
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| Quote ="Conorgiantsfan"Crazy suggestion, why not try a cricket ground? Employ some temporary seating, you could easily fit in a good 4,000 extra through making it rectangular, tickets for the oval would be cheap and could go fast.'"
Unlike Australian cricket grounds, I'm don't think county cricket grounds have facilities for extra seating so the ground becomes a rectangle. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also I doubt the groundsman would like it if 34 rugby players were trampling his wicket.
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| Also, I don't think we should use Wembley, perhaps the Olympic Stadium, to ride on the 2012 wave? If we look at the Quarters, we're probably going to end up with;
Australia/France - Craven Cottage, Near the Centre, if I can remember it from the Everton match last year is easy to get to. Is big enough (27,000) and would get the recognition needed.
England/Tonga - DW Stadium, in a Place that loves Rugby League, and is well deserving, probably best place to have it, but this could be transferred with Hudds/Leeds/Hull.
New Zealand/Fiji - Craven Cottage, Double Header with Aus/France, limits stadiums, and limits costs. Boosts Crowds.
Samoa/Wales - Racecourse Ground, speaks for itself, should be the home of Crusaders, and will no-doubt attract a good crowd.
Semis;
Australia/England
New Zealand/Wales
Both should be held at a 35,000/40,000 stadium, as a double header, I would say Anfield, Sheffield, or Elland Road.
Final: Olympic Stadium?
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| Quote ="Conorgiantsfan"Also, I don't think we should use Wembley, perhaps the Olympic Stadium, to ride on the 2012 wave? If we look at the Quarters, we're probably going to end up with;
Australia/France - Craven Cottage, Near the Centre, if I can remember it from the Everton match last year is easy to get to. Is big enough (27,000) and would get the recognition needed.
England/Tonga - DW Stadium, in a Place that loves Rugby League, and is well deserving, probably best place to have it, but this could be transferred with Hudds/Leeds/Hull.
New Zealand/Fiji - Craven Cottage, Double Header with Aus/France, limits stadiums, and limits costs. Boosts Crowds.
Samoa/Wales - Racecourse Ground, speaks for itself, should be the home of Crusaders, and will no-doubt attract a good crowd.
Semis;
Australia/England
New Zealand/Wales
Both should be held at a 35,000/40,000 stadium, as a double header, I would say Anfield, Sheffield, or Elland Road.
Final: Olympic Stadium?'"
England and Tonga are not in the same group, neither are NZ and Fiji...... neither are NZ and Wales.
You can only decide on stadiums for specific games with the group games.
I would have the 1/4 finals at 2 grounds, both double headers. The one involving England at Elland road or Eastlands. Maybe even at a bigger ground and double it up with the Aus or NZ 1/4 final.
I would do the same for the semi... pick a big stadium and play both games in a double header, this cuts the cost and will get a much bigger crowd.
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| Is Wembley going to be considered?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"thats what relegation does.'" I think you will find its due to the previous man who ran the SMC being back in charge again.
HTH
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| Apart from a good laugh, what I mostly got from this thred is how deluded some people are. Using somewhere like LSV for a minor game isnt thinking small, its thinking practical taking into account potential attendance and costs involved. Your having a laugh if you think we can get any higher than 25-30,000 for any group game. Who wants a double header in October/November? If some on here had their way we would be suing 50,00 seater stadiums and most likely get a small attendance and lose money.
Ticket deals would be a good start not free tickets.
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| Quote ="Conorgiantsfan"Also, I don't think we should use Wembley, perhaps the Olympic Stadium, to ride on the 2012 wave? '"
Sounds like a really good idea to me.
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| Quote ="Peckerwood"
Day Three - Sunday.
USA V Lebanon - The Stoop. 5pm kick off.
New Zealand V France - The Stoop. 5pm kick off.'"
Now, that's a double header I'd pay to see
52 players on the pitch at any given point in time
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"Now, that's a double header I'd pay to see
52 players on the pitch at any given point in time
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Typed in by mistake, but not a bad idea come to think of it.
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| The Olympic Stadium idea would have to be dependant on a) the capacity at the time and b) whether the running track is there. As it happens, I reckon it will be irrelevant as I dare say they will be doing the demolishing/rebuilding to convert it to whatever purpose it will have after the Olympics, as Eastlands was out of action for a year after the Commonwealth Games if memory serves me right.
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| If Jamaica qualify, I want Jamaica vs Wales in Bristol
There'd be a great turnout for that!
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| The thing with this thread is people are just plucking grounds out of the air. OT, anfield etc have to want to stage these fixtures.
I think the worst thing for the final would be to hold it at Elland Road. You need somewhere with a bit more glamour than that.
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| it would be great to see at least one of the french group matches played in france ie Toulouse - I think the FFR is thinking of making some kind of bid
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| When will the grounds be confirmed?
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