Unable to counteract the facts of rovers finances I see.....

What any club had before isn't really the point , Rovers have spent money since they gained a SL place , that cannot be denied , more needs spending , yes , hopefully they will find a way to do it , if they dont then their place in SL will be at risk

HKR - continual improvement in crowds, stadium etc

Wakey - 2 semi finals in 10 years and nothing else except empty promises. a fall in crowds last year despite making the semis.

looks like you were wrong when you said the only ground improvements were to one grandstand.

and HKR have the credibility when they make an artists impression of further ground improvements

hey if you dont think craven park is good enough, they could always play at the KC, given its a community stadium

imagine what their crowds would be then.

I agree, but haven't Wakefield done just as much? The hospitalty flats at the end of BV are new(ish). So Wakey have invested since they have been in SL.

the article is a load of nonsense.

its written by someone with a basic knowledge of accounting and a little else

just because a debt is listed as a current liability doesnt mean the club really has to pay it back in a year

the flats were built when 70s / 80s?

BV looks a dump on TV.

go back to the franchise bids. wakeys winning bid was on the promise of a new ground. clearly the RFL dont see any SL future for them in BV.

so disregard my opinions.

the RFL wont extend their license next time round with no new ground in sight,

failure to grow crowds and poor finances and stronger clubs waiting are relevant as well.

other than the terracing extending what other improvemts have the done compared to Wakey? Don't include the pitch as an improvement to the ground, as a good playing surface should be a given now we are playing in the summer.

They were given the option when the KC was being built, but declined, and to be honest the pitch at the KC couldn't cope with 3 teams using it.

for the whole credibility of the franchise system, the RFL has to show poorly performing SL clubs they will be relegated.

it also has to show clubs outside SL they can get in if they invest and grow.

as the weakest current SL club, wakey are clearly favs. for relegation

i doubt the RFL will kick out 2 SL clubs at once.

wakey getting kicked out will be a warning to cas as well that they need to deliver.

this could lead both clubs to look more closely at a ground share if neither can go it alone

it cas can do it on their own, and wakey cant deliver then cas become the dominant SL club and wakey are left out

another proposal is for wakey to go with Fev and invest the funds in the sale of BV in improving PO Road.

Fev, despite being a very small club, could trump both one day given all the land they own and proposals to fix up their ground

thought you claimed to know everything about British Rugby, so you should know when the boxes were built?

various stadiums in sydney have coped with 3 teams using it

hint : they wouldnt all be playing the same weekend

Hull KR should look at playing their bigger games at the KC anyway, especially the derby

So, you don't think the HDM paid the money so they could view the accounts that were filed with companies house, costs about £5 I think.

i thought they were built in the 70s but your comment they are new threw me.

if they were built in the 70s your comment about them being newish is really silly.

look i dont know everything about your game, but i do know a lot

yeah im going to analyse the financials for you

i read the article and it was a load of nonsense

it doesnt even say who the debts are owed to

If they were built in the 70's or 80's I wouldn't have said they were newish.

when you find that needle let me know

Visit the Companies House website, pay your money and download the accounts for yourself.

As abbreviated accounts, they will not state to whom the money is owed. Hudgell wouldn't comment to HDM, so do you suggest they simply make up a list of creditors?

They have improved the pitch, a lot has been spent on the restaurant and bars in the RM stand, the bar under the East stand, there is a new shop on site and money has been spent on services (sewerage and electricity) in preparation for further developments. A lot of this as a visitiing supporter you would not see, and some of our Black and White friends, if they were taken on a guided tour, shown the invoices and had a presentation by the builders who did the work with before and after photo's, still wouldn't see.

There is clearly a massive difference between Craven Park 6/7 years ago and now, and I think it always shows up well on telly, it certainly does not present a poor image of the game.

Which ones would these be then?

They were offered a place at the time. Unfortunately they had to decline as their fans couldn't afford the bus fare to get there.
But hey, good argument!

Yet again you reveal your lack opf knowledge about Wakefield Trinity. But why let the facts get in the way of spouting your bile against the club. The Hospitality Boxes were put up in 2000.

On what basis are Wakefield thew weakest club. Other than the ground issue what other areas are they weaker than other teams. Please give the areas of weakness compared to other teams please.

No, it doesn't, but I'm struggling to find the relevance of that to rovers debts!
Which, by the way is the reason you won't be spending full cap and still trying to offload one of your biggest earners to anyone who'll have him which will make you less competitive this year and there for struggle to make a dent in your debt.
Will be interesting though to see how many fans still turn up if you do struggle. Will you be able to still increase you're average attendance? Make a profit for 5 consecutive years? Merchandising constantly over £1 million year on year? Record shirt sales year on year? Record season pass sales year on year? All this if you finished 11th and 12th?
Point is, you don't have the infrastructure to achieve these things, wipe away your debts and you're still losing 450k a year, how are you going to pay off your short term debts of £2.2m if you're losing that money? Or will you always fall back on "in Hudge we trust"? I'm sure the Leeds fans trusted Peter Ridsdale once.

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